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Learning another language! Mainly, Spanish.
« on: October 03, 2012, 09:02:02 am »

So ... how? :D

I took Spanish I a couple months ago, and it left me wanting for more. The situation I'm in doesn't let me take Spanish II or higher at school, so I need to find other methods of learning it.
I never had experience in consciously learning another language, so I can't really help myself.

These are some options I've thought of:

  • Language hakwons: Hakwons are devilish businesses that suck the money out of you faster than you can say "damned to debt", but they do teach stuff. Better than public schools, in fact.
  • Online lectures: Like hakwons but cheaper. And with less obligation to concentrate. Also boring.
  • Reading Spanish books (probably picture books): More fun, but lacking in the grammar department. Vocab can be learned through dictionaries, like spanishdict.com. I suppose it'd be hard to get a comprehensive education by this method.
  • Spanish course, later, in college : Might be bad for a couple reasons. One, it is a course, so it's represented in my GPA, and two, college courses aren't rated for everyone...

...Help? D:
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Re: Learning another language! Mainly, Spanish.
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2012, 09:07:56 am »

A subsection of C: videogames in Spanish, movies in Spanish?
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Re: Learning another language! Mainly, Spanish.
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2012, 09:13:39 am »

What ChairmanPoo said. I've learned more English words by myself watching LOTR trilogy (x50) rather than from my school's textbook for english. Of course, start with your native subtitles. And then try with the subtitles in language you want to learn (spanish). And then, try without subtitles.

Even if you won't understand the words, you will know what they sound like - and given the 'events' happening in the movie, you might counsciousnly or subcounsciously match words to various things.

Also: Dictionaries are good. Translators are bad.

Also, what's your native language and is it in the same language family as Spanish? (For Spanish, it would be latin-derived: Italian, French, English, etc.)
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Re: Learning another language! Mainly, Spanish.
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2012, 10:04:26 am »

Without even trying I picked up several Japanese phrases and words, just from casually watching subtitled anime. And I'm the type that only watches like, one new series a year.

So yeah, watch movies/play games in the language you want to learn, and it should be a lot more pleasant (and fun).
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Re: Learning another language! Mainly, Spanish.
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2012, 10:26:12 am »

So ... how?

Pimsleur Spanish

You may be able to torrent them.

Note that while the Pimsleur method is excellent for building conversational fluency and very good for grammar, it is somewhat less good for building vocabulary. Spanish is relatively easy to learn and its conjugation is generally pretty consistent, so you can probably supplement Pimsleur with lists like this easily found online.

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Re: Learning another language! Mainly, Spanish.
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2012, 10:40:57 am »

One thing I'll say after 4 years of Spanish is that there's a world of difference between understanding it and actually speaking it. When you've got the former, continue until you've mastered the latter. Knowing a language but being unable to comfortably speak it is only so much use.

Once you're ready, I'd recommend going down to any local Spanish/Latino markets you have and trying it out on them.
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Re: Learning another language! Mainly, Spanish.
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2012, 12:41:49 pm »

Watch cartoons with subtitles as well as movies and games as said previously (with subtitles, of course).  Cartoons because of relatively simple language that will be easier to pick up.
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Re: Learning another language! Mainly, Spanish.
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2012, 12:58:46 pm »

I'd say radio, but then I remembered that only works for me because I live in Canada :-X and it doesn't seem like there would be a large Spanish community in Korea... but I find that radio is really great because you can multitask with it on (and if there are songs, the rhymes can also help you remember words and whatnot). You could look for online broadcasts and stuff like that.
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Re: Learning another language! Mainly, Spanish.
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2012, 03:06:13 pm »

Just an idea. Bookmark some spanish websites (or blogs, but quality stuff) about things you like and visit the often. Reading Don Quijote may be nice, but I think you'll find translating more rewarding if text talks about something that interest you, like video games, or something like that.
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Re: Learning another language! Mainly, Spanish.
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2012, 03:14:51 pm »

Have conversations! Both text based and verbal. My spanish really, really could use some assistance, so I'd be more than willing to help out there.

I did not get far in Don Quixote, but reading comic books in spanish is enjoyable. ;)
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Re: Learning another language! Mainly, Spanish.
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2012, 04:15:51 pm »

All this advice here is good advice.

I learned Spanish with these things: A grammar book, a dictionary, a small library of books in Spanish with their English counterparts, and actually speaking/listening to it.


The grammar book is fairly easy. Just go to a local bookstore and see if they have anything that covers anything and everything - If it doesn't have a lesson on the subjunctive or a pronunciation guide, forget it. You can skip this one early on, but you'll need it once you get to a certain point. You may wait for this one if you're taking college courses, but they generally start off super basic during the first semester. On the other hand, college textbooks are usually fairly broad in their scope.


Dictionaries are easy. I recommend one that does Spanish/English and English/Spanish. Even better if it's small enough to carry around with you, and all the good ones have a pronunciation guide in them.


Books are easy to find in either English or Spanish, but well translated ones aren't too common. The Bible's the easiest and probably most accessible choice if you're Christian or an open-minded [Insert Your Belief System Here] that can read Christian scripture for the explicit purpose of learning a language. It'll do you less good if you're sitting around the entire study period thinking about your opinions on a book rather than why you're reading it. Just be sure to match up Bible versions - Don't get a New World English version with a King James Spanish version. If you don't want to go the biblical route, there's always other classics, such as Lord of the Rings and such. I have no clue how well they were translated, though, so you'll have to either gamble or find someone that knows.

Anyways, the idea is to set both English and Spanish books side by side - Read a sentence/paragraph/verse in English, and then in Spanish. Speak the foreign language while you do it, and, if possible, have a native speaker correct you and read with you. Failing that, just follow a pronunciation guide. Every single time you get to a word that you don't understand, look it up in your dictionary and write it down. This will help pattern recognition and expand your vocabulary.


And while you shouldn't substitute them for reading in Spanish, movies and shows are great sources for pronunciation and developing an accent. If you don't have a high Spanish speaking population in your area, this is your route to fluency. Avoid the hazard of watching them for entertainment - Whenever you hear a sentence, pause the movie and repeat what the actor just said.


Finally, the most important thing when learning any new language: Don't ever worry about messing up, and don't be embarrassed when you do. Laugh, learn, and move on.

I tried telling a lady, "Don't worry about it" once. I ended up saying, "I don't have a penis." It was hilarious, and I still went on to speak Spanish fluently despite feeling rather hopeless and stupid at times (I lived in Guatemala and spoke it constantly, so it was a fairly constant feeling at times). I learned to not give a crap whether I messed up or not and just tried my hardest. It doesn't really matter if you don't do it well at first - Eventually someone's going to understand you, you'll understand them, you'll tell them you're from Mexico, and they'll believe you. You just have to keep working on it.
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