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Jboy2000000

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Fastest way to juice up and get computer skill?
« on: September 23, 2012, 02:36:53 pm »

I have a whole bunch of people hacking, but they only have 1 Intel. so thats their max computer skill, how do I get their juice up without taking them out of the safehouse?
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Re: Fastest way to juice up and get computer skill?
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2012, 05:20:31 pm »

Make the bunch bigger.
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Re: Fastest way to juice up and get computer skill?
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2012, 05:24:22 pm »

I honestly didn't pay close attention, but it seems one of my hackers has been steadily raising his intelligence. Ironically, he's a programmer who bugged to Intelligence HQ as his location after he was caught snooping around. I like to think he's sitting there in front of the intelligence supercomputer and using it to hack.
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Re: Fastest way to juice up and get computer skill?
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2012, 05:44:58 pm »

I honestly didn't pay close attention, but it seems one of my hackers has been steadily raising his intelligence. Ironically, he's a programmer who bugged to Intelligence HQ as his location after he was caught snooping around. I like to think he's sitting there in front of the intelligence supercomputer and using it to hack.

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Re: Fastest way to juice up and get computer skill?
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2012, 05:55:52 pm »

Make the bunch bigger.
I have (I think) 56 Hackers, I don't think that will work.
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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2012, 06:21:56 pm »

I have (I think) 56 Hackers, I don't think that will work.
Then they should all be gaining 10 juice and a new entry on the rapsheet each day.
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Re: Fastest way to juice up and get computer skill?
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2012, 06:26:12 pm »

They do, but the Juice cap for hacking is 200, and they hit that.
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« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2012, 07:41:55 pm »

They do, but the Juice cap for hacking is 200, and they hit that.
How, then, are they still at 1 INT?
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Re: Fastest way to juice up and get computer skill?
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2012, 07:50:17 pm »

I don't know, their intel. score just never went up.
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Re: Fastest way to juice up and get computer skill?
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2012, 08:44:02 pm »

Err... you could legitimately get that result, of 1 intelligence at 200 juice, if your hacker squad is composed of 56 small children with extremely low (like 1) base intelligence.

Otherwise, their base intelligence must be -negative-, which shouldn't occur normally. Were you doing some save editing?
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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2012, 08:58:07 pm »

Err... you could legitimately get that result, of 1 intelligence at 200 juice, if your hacker squad is composed of 56 small children with extremely low (like 1) base intelligence.

Otherwise, their base intelligence must be -negative-, which shouldn't occur normally. Were you doing some save editing?
No, the last time I edited anything was when I tried to make a little mod a few versions ago.  If the information help their not children, the hackers, their all monsters.
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« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2012, 12:15:43 am »

Err... you could legitimately get that result, of 1 intelligence at 200 juice, if your hacker squad is composed of 56 small children with extremely low (like 1) base intelligence.

Otherwise, their base intelligence must be -negative-, which shouldn't occur normally. Were you doing some save editing?
No, the last time I edited anything was when I tried to make a little mod a few versions ago.  If the information help their not children, the hackers, their all monsters.

They're monsters? Well, that explains it then; both why their intelligence isn't increasing, and why it's so low for all of them. Guard dogs and genetic monsters have a maximum base intelligence of 1, and they're never spawned older than 7 or 8 years old. They have a large penalty to intelligence imposed by their age, which is overwhelming the benefit they would be getting from juice; the juice benefit is actually being tacked onto a negative intelligence score.

In time, your army of flaming rabbits and warped bears will grow old enough to let the benefits of juice start to show. They'll never be geniuses due to their extremely low base intelligence, but with 200 juice they'll be able to reach 3 intelligence once they hit 11 years old, or 4 intelligence at 16 years old. Or you can send them out to kill some Conservatives; even at their current age they should hit 2 intelligence at 500 juice and 3 intelligence at 1000.

All things considered though, you have built an army of hackers based on the worst possible creature in the game.

Note to self: Animals should probably ignore the effects of age. They have artificially reduced strength, health, intelligence, and wisdom, with artificially increased heart, simply because they're being treated like children.
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Re: Fastest way to juice up and get computer skill?
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2012, 12:35:22 am »

Do people get Juice for shooting as back-ups during a raid? Ive been keeping raids at bay since before I got monsters, and I don't feel safe sending them into public with 2nd rate weapons and armor.
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« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2012, 03:51:29 pm »

OK, here's what: Starting with 1 INT, it would get -3 for being a child, then [*1.3+4] for having 200 juice. Because it's always rounded down, the *1.3 turns -2 into -3, then the +4 brings it up to 1 again.
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EDIT:I just realized that if the hacking bug from 4.04.0 was still around, such 1-INT children would make up the only type of hacker-group that could do the "always hack, never caught"-thing without requiring regular replacements.
« Last Edit: September 27, 2012, 09:32:28 pm by Pesi »
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