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[exolyx]

Yeah, the title pretty much says it. The fortress is on a good sea/woodland(maybe, I forgot) map, as I'm digging down it's taking longer than expected to reach the caverns, when I finally reach them I think I somehow missed a cavern layer, so I use dfhack reveal quickly to check, and yup, the caverns are definitely starting (technically at around -90, but that's the cieling of a thin spire. the main ground of the cavern is actually -100.) the next cavern layer's ceiling is -109. The third cavern layer is 1 Z level yes, one entire Z level below the second layers bottom floor (second floor ends at 113). magma sea and candy at -117. Bottom of magma sea at -123. Bottom of entire map at -129.

Has anyone else had caverns clustered so low and so closely? I can give some pictures of the situation.

[Captain Willy]

Ya I've had these happen before, mostly when I really want/need the cavern for some reason.

[exolyx]

Ah, ok. i was wondering if it's one of those things that just happened uncommonly, or happened rarely.

[Captain Willy]

As for my experiences uncommon, but could be more in the rare category for others.

[Adequate Swimmer]

Its quite possible not to hit anything and get straight to the circus.

[wuphonsreach]

Happens more frequently if you embark in mountains or setup the world to be an "island" world instead of a "region".

[LumberingOaf]

I had this with my most recent fortress. The first cavern layer has a ground floor at about -80 and seems to have far more vertical space than horizontal. It extends both much higher and lower than that. Second cavern is at about -110 and by necessity is much flatter. I've not bothered locating the third and the magma sea yet but by my reckoning they can't be far below. I run out of map not far below.

[dwarfhoplite]

I usually make all my worlds about ten deep.

[StLeibowitz]

I've noticed this situation before as well, except it only happens when I'm trying to create a fortress based entirely in the caverns. I tried to create a fort without that goal in mind, I got the roof of cavern 1 at -30z. With that intention, and I have to go down 100-120 layers to find the damn place. It irks me.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Wait, Dwarf Fortress is telepathic...and malevolent?

[exolyx]

Wait, Dwarf Fortress is telepathic...and malevolent?

And you're surprised?

[Mimodo]

I've had cavern layer 1 at z-12 before... And almost every time I've dug a vertical staircase to try find the caverns, I've missed all of the caverns, AND the magma sea, and hit SMR