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[TheCoolSideofthePIllow]

Just got the latest version here making a new world for it, and at about year 68 of a 150 year generation, it started to slow down to about 5 minutes per year.

I think the last version I was on was 0.31 or 0.32; whatever one had just added mine carts and the stockpile updates. I haven't changed hardware or anything, so I am just wondering what has changed since the last version I used regarding world generation?

EDIT: Whoa... Do NPCs generate children now? That might be why it's so slow. I just looked back at it and was in the THIRD AGE OF LEGENDS. Age of Legends is when there are still certain types of monsters, yes? When I started the post, it was on a Golden Age, which to my knowledge is when all the megabeasts are gone. :O

[i2amroy]

Note here, but .31 refers to DF2010, .34 refers to DF2012. It's the second number that refers to version number. And since the hauling update the only world generation thing that has changed involve command line and seed generation, so I don't know of anything that might be causing the slowdown you say you are experiencing.

[TheCoolSideofthePIllow]

Hm..

Strange.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Some megabeasts and semimegabeasts reproduce. Also, I think werebeasts , vampires, and/or necromancers might revert the age.

[Quietust]

Back in the earlier 0.31.xx releases, worldgen was reasonably fast and could typically do a full 1050 years within several minutes on a decent system - from the beginning to the end, history ran at a fairly constant rate. It got significantly slower in version 0.31.19 (with each successive year taking longer to generate than the previous one), and version 0.34's addition of Necromancers and Werecreatures have only made it slower.

[edit] A few worldgen times for a default "Create a World Now" (Medium world, 250 years)
Version 0.31.14: 1:09
Version 0.31.18: 1:19 for the same seed, yielding a different map (28490 histfigs, 1801 sites, 646 regions, 405 underground regions, 1504 entities, 192166 events)
Version 0.31.19: 4:01 for the same seed, yielding the same map but with different history (10230 histfigs, 1766 sites, 646 regions, 405 underground regions, 1440 entities, 93461 events)
Version 0.34.11: 7:23 for a different seed (49916 histfigs, 1424 sites, 905 regions, 405 underground regions, 1859 entities, 323222 events)

[GiglameshDespair]

I thought Golden Ages where when there were no wars going on, rather than no megabeasts.

[CaptainArchmage]

Back in the earlier 0.31.xx releases, worldgen was reasonably fast and could typically do a full 1050 years within several minutes on a decent system - from the beginning to the end, history ran at a fairly constant rate. It got significantly slower in version 0.31.19 (with each successive year taking longer to generate than the previous one), and version 0.34's addition of Necromancers and Werecreatures have only made it slower.

[edit] A few worldgen times for a default "Create a World Now" (Medium world, 250 years)
Version 0.31.14: 1:09
Version 0.31.18: 1:19 for the same seed, yielding a different map (28490 histfigs, 1801 sites, 646 regions, 405 underground regions, 1504 entities, 192166 events)
Version 0.31.19: 4:01 for the same seed, yielding the same map but with different history (10230 histfigs, 1766 sites, 646 regions, 405 underground regions, 1440 entities, 93461 events)
Version 0.34.11: 7:23 for a different seed (49916 histfigs, 1424 sites, 905 regions, 405 underground regions, 1859 entities, 323222 events)

Are those times in hours and minutes, or minutes and seconds?

[GreatWyrmGold]

I thought Golden Ages where when there were no wars going on, rather than no megabeasts.

No, it's when civilized beings rule the world unquestioned, ie no megabeasts terrorize them. War is civilized, especially the way worldgen does it.

[GiglameshDespair]

I thought Golden Ages where when there were no wars going on, rather than no megabeasts.

No, it's when civilized beings rule the world unquestioned, ie no megabeasts terrorize them. War is civilized, especially the way worldgen does it.

I wasn't sure, so I had a quick glance at the wiki.

The Golden Age
Civilizations are expanding, and there are no wars and other things for them to worry about. This age is very common in pocket worlds, and naturally progresses from an age of a prominent figure.
The Golden Age was a time when various civilized races peopled the world.

From the wiki, there's no wars in a golden age.

[GreatWyrmGold]

I have golden ages whenever the world starts without MBs, and wars start up then, so the wiki is wrong.

[zeziba]

If you want to cut the time of world gen down, cut the avalible sites down. Make sure to cut down pop cap on civs because 15000 is a little high on a map bigger than 33x33. When I gen a world I up the site cap and lower the pop cap.

My current string of worlds I have 120 sites and a max population of 5000 per civ. Even when I generate 7000+ year history worlds still doesn't take that long. Forgot to mention I also up the civ cap as-well when I lower the population cap.


Here is my current world if you want to take a swing. Lots of civs and volcanos. It should also generate lots of waterfalls making a Volcano w/ a waterfall site possible which is always cool IMHO.

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[WORLD_GEN]
   [TITLE:Adv Mode]
   [DIM:65:65]
   [EMBARK_POINTS:10000]
   [END_YEAR:10]
   [BEAST_END_YEAR:50:80]
   [REVEAL_ALL_HISTORY:1]
   [CULL_HISTORICAL_FIGURES:1]
   [ELEVATION:1:400:5:5]
   [RAINFALL:0:100:400:400]
   [TEMPERATURE:25:75:800:800]
   [DRAINAGE:0:100:10:10]
   [VOLCANISM:0:100:3200:3200]
   [SAVAGERY:0:100:3200:3200]
   [ELEVATION_FREQUENCY:3:1:1:1:1:1]
   [RAIN_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:2:5]
   [DRAINAGE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:2:2:4]
   [TEMPERATURE_FREQUENCY:1:1:2:5:1:1]
   [SAVAGERY_FREQUENCY:1:2:1:1:1:5]
   [VOLCANISM_FREQUENCY:1:5:1:1:1:2]
   [MINERAL_SCARCITY:1000]
   [MEGABEAST_CAP:225]
   [SEMIMEGABEAST_CAP:225]
   [TITAN_NUMBER:48]
   [TITAN_ATTACK_TRIGGER:140:0:0]
   [DEMON_NUMBER:95]
   [GOOD_SQ_COUNTS:420:0:0]
   [EVIL_SQ_COUNTS:420:0:0]
   [PEAK_NUMBER_MIN:1]
   [PARTIAL_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:1]
   [COMPLETE_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:0]
   [VOLCANO_MIN:100]
   [REGION_COUNTS:SWAMP:0:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:DESERT:0:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:FOREST:0:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:MOUNTAINS:0:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:OCEAN:0:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:GLACIER:0:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:TUNDRA:0:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:GRASSLAND:0:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:HILLS:0:0:0]
   [EROSION_CYCLE_COUNT:200]
   [RIVER_MINS:24:47]
   [PERIODICALLY_ERODE_EXTREMES:1]
   [OROGRAPHIC_PRECIPITATION:1]
   [SUBREGION_MAX:5000]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_COUNT:3]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MIN:25]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MAX:80]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MIN:0]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MAX:10]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MIN:15]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MAX:80]
   [HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_1:1]
   [HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_2:1]
   [LEVELS_ABOVE_GROUND:25]
   [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_1:35]
   [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_2:25]
   [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_3:20]
   [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_4:10]
   [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_5:15]
   [LEVELS_AT_BOTTOM:10]
   [CAVE_MIN_SIZE:7]
   [CAVE_MAX_SIZE:25]
   [MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:1]
   [NON_MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:3]
   [ALL_CAVES_VISIBLE:1]
   [SHOW_EMBARK_TUNNEL:2]
   [TOTAL_CIV_NUMBER:60]
   [TOTAL_CIV_POPULATION:8000]
   [SITE_CAP:80]
   [PLAYABLE_CIVILIZATION_REQUIRED:1]
   [ELEVATION_RANGES:0:0:0]
   [RAIN_RANGES:0:0:0]
   [DRAINAGE_RANGES:0:0:0]
   [SAVAGERY_RANGES:0:0:0]
   [VOLCANISM_RANGES:0:0:0]

What kicks world gens butt is available pop cap because of historical figures, and site caps. IE more places for a civ to generate take over what ever else it does with them.

[Putnam]

I thought Golden Ages where when there were no wars going on, rather than no megabeasts.

No, it's when civilized beings rule the world unquestioned, ie no megabeasts terrorize them. War is civilized, especially the way worldgen does it.

I wasn't sure, so I had a quick glance at the wiki.

The Golden Age
Civilizations are expanding, and there are no wars and other things for them to worry about. This age is very common in pocket worlds, and naturally progresses from an age of a prominent figure.
The Golden Age was a time when various civilized races peopled the world.

From the wiki, there's no wars in a golden age.

"And other things" refers to megabeasts.

[GreatWyrmGold]

I've had wars start up in the first years of megabeastless worlds, and it was listed as a Golden Age.