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Facekillz058

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Re: Is multigrasp better?
« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2012, 06:11:23 am »

Just a thought, but, aren't husks EXTREMELY Resistant to fire/magma?

If so, would a sheild be somewhat pointless against a dragon if one was a husk?
An also, i just read that they can only die from decapitation and bisection, so, unless husks/thralls can still be disabled, sheilds wouldn't be as needed.
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Re: Is multigrasp better?
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2012, 10:18:06 am »

They are husks and they have a bit skin on them I think.
I think skeletons are quite resilient.
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Re: Is multigrasp better?
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2012, 04:41:09 pm »

Husks and optimization are two words when put together become redundant. A husk could probably multigrasp an eagle feather and kill a dragon with it. No, 10 dragons. All made out of bronze.

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Re: Is multigrasp better?
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2012, 05:39:53 pm »

Husks are husks, the question of armed husks is not one that is relevant, not at all. HOWEVER, Small ones are no problem i've heard, since they cant do much damage before they are decapitated. Its the big ones you fear. Essentially the question of Husk death is this:

F=(H*R)(P*L)/(D/H*I)
F=Likely hood of complete anihalation.
H= Number of Husks
R=Rate of increase of Husks. Depends on whether the dust spreads and such. Possibly influenced by I.
P=Likely hood of any one particualr attack of the non-husk creature seriously wounding a dwarf (i.e. a cat is lower, but has a chance of a lucky hit. Hooved creatures have a very high number, armed creatures depends on original strength etc.) Note: can increase or decrease based on D (dwarves that are huskified can increase the overall effectiveness by alot, or very little, depending on skill)
L= the time any particualar Husk will stay in the fight before being killed. Quite likely very high. Inversely proportional to D
D= Number of dwarves, and skill levels, and ability to handle fight (only slash attacks kill them, and others only injure, so axes are highest, followed by swords, etc)
I=Chance of infection of fighting dwarf.

Feel free to add to my math. I'd add more but I have a errand to do.
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Re: Is multigrasp better?
« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2012, 12:33:27 pm »

What if one is single-grasping a normally 2-handed weapon? I'm fairly certain that characters with fairly exceptional strength (superhuman or greater) are capable of wielding a multigrasp weapon with one hand and a shield in the other, and doing it without the "remove from backpack" loophole. I've had several characters as such, and am curious if I'm actually getting the best of both worlds, or just hindering myself with the 2-hander's greater weight.

Though admittedly, with that kind of strength, even bare fists can cave in people's faces.
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Re: Is multigrasp better?
« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2012, 04:07:24 pm »

My !!science!! shows that single grasping a multigrasp weapon greatly reduces combat effectiveness even if the other item is a shield.

Here is a link http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=103031.msg3045498#msg3045498
« Last Edit: July 20, 2012, 04:15:22 pm by friendguy13 »
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Re: Is multigrasp better?
« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2012, 05:02:51 pm »

I see. Perhaps I'll just stick with one-handers from now on. Thanks.
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