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Viking

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Marksdwarves, can they shoot submerged creatures?
« on: May 28, 2012, 10:40:47 pm »

See title really. I want to shoot swimming forgotten beasts. Anyone have any experience with it?
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Re: Marksdwarves, can they shoot submerged creatures?
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2012, 10:45:10 pm »

They can.

I tried to train marksdwarfs once by having them shoot fish and retrieving the bolts when the lake froze during winter.
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Re: Marksdwarves, can they shoot submerged creatures?
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2012, 12:01:54 am »

Thanks!
That video reminds me of stories my dad would tell about when he was a kid. He knew boys who'd throw grenades they found into rivers I think also to kill fish. :)
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Re: Marksdwarves, can they shoot submerged creatures?
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2012, 05:45:27 am »

Thanks!
That video reminds me of stories my dad would tell about when he was a kid. He knew boys who'd throw grenades they found into rivers I think also to kill fish. :)

Where did your dad grow up that boys had free access to grenades?
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Re: Marksdwarves, can they shoot submerged creatures?
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2012, 06:39:07 am »

Cambodia?
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Re: Marksdwarves, can they shoot submerged creatures?
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2012, 09:17:05 am »

Holland after the second world war :p I don't know that they ever found a lot of them but immediately after the war there was still a lot of cleaning up to do.
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Re: Marksdwarves, can they shoot submerged creatures?
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2012, 11:16:49 am »

Holland after the second world war :p I don't know that they ever found a lot of them but immediately after the war there was still a lot of cleaning up to do.

It's funny because in the US we haven't had a post-war type situation with lots of firearms and unexploded ordnance lying around since the Civil War, but we essentially imported one after WWII. As European governments saw decreased interest in firearm ownership by their citizens while needing to get rid of their sudden glut of surplus firearms and make some quick cash, a lot of them sold obsolete guns to importers who brought them to the US for sale.

It started with German rifles, then Italian in the 1950s (Kennedy was shot with WWII-surplus Carcano rifle bought by mail order for $19.95), then the British Lee-Enfield variants. Soviet client states teased over to the other side like Egypt would liquidate their Soviet arms and replace them with Western models, and their armories ended up on the US surplus market too. Before 1968 all sorts of crazy stuff like anti-tank rifles could be bought and sold openly without much government oversight.

After the fall of the Soviet Union their enormous reserves of obsolete guns got liquidated and many of them ended up on the US market too (so did their nuclear weapons via the Megatons to Megawatts program- almost 50% of commercial US nuclear power is generated from dismantled Soviet nuclear weapons!)
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Re: Marksdwarves, can they shoot submerged creatures?
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2012, 04:29:54 pm »

After the fall of the Soviet Union their enormous reserves of obsolete guns got liquidated and many of them ended up on the US market too (so did their nuclear weapons via the Megatons to Megawatts program- almost 50% of commercial US nuclear power is generated from dismantled Soviet nuclear weapons!)

Learn something new every day!  I'm looking this up when I get home, it sounds fascinating. 

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Re: Marksdwarves, can they shoot submerged creatures?
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2012, 12:10:58 am »

Wow Niyazov, that's really interesting stuff!
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Re: Marksdwarves, can they shoot submerged creatures?
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2012, 06:01:10 am »

Somewhat related question.
Do liquids effect projectiles? Will they be slowed down , completly stop after passing through a single fluid tile (eg. target is below or behind a body of water), or will they ignore it entirly. Dose flow effect this?
Also, will wooden ammo catch fire (for magma), be extinguished (for water) or change temprature at all (for all matterials)?

[mostly unrelated]
Dose any of the above apply for minecarts or things in them?