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miauw62

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Re: If they invented a machine that burned fat, would you approve?
« Reply #75 on: May 13, 2012, 10:22:31 am »

Well, i think its a good idea, but it should only be used when its needed.
Because excersise is not only burning fat, it also does lots of other obscure good stuff i guess.
but when youre so fat that you really cant excersise anymore, i approve.
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Re: If they invented a machine that burned fat, would you approve?
« Reply #76 on: May 30, 2012, 08:43:14 pm »

And so a necro was cast, an life was blown into the tread. It arised anew.

Well... I just found out of a new way of a fat burning machine work so I thought I would resurect the thread.  Basically scientists have been looking into ways to stimulate Brown Fat cells, and Brown fat growth in humans(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_adipose_tissue). Normal fat is just adipose tissue, which is generally useless except as a form of energy storage and a site for hormone syntesization. Brown fat tissues quickly metabolize ATP in order to generate heat. (If you don't remember what ATP is from Bio class, google can help with that.)  ATP is how your body stores energy in the short term. Your body makes ATP through the breakdown of carbohydrates and fats (and likely other things too.). Also, the stem cells which differentiate into Brown fat cells are well known, they are the same that turn into muscle cells (sometimes fat cells too, but mostly muscle cells).

So solution, inject Brown fat cell stem cells into Adipose tissue deposits of the patient. Place a patient in a very cold room so the body will think it is danger of freezing and hence activate brown fat cells, depleting ATP reserves in the process. Feed the patient a low calorie diet, so the body must resort to burning calories stored in the form of Adipose tissue to replenish ATP reserves (if you feed them fried chicken the body will just metabolize those fats and carbohydrates into ATP). Make sure the patient only undergoes this treatment for 3-5 days in a row, otherwise the body will begin to break down muscle tissue, something I don't think we want. Release the patient, the excessive brown fat tissue will degrade over time as the body realizes that it does not need the Brown fat tissue.

This is in general a fasting regimen, with the addition of a kind of exercise because of the brown fat tissue. This would likely be faster than just fasting, but it would depend on the amount of brown fat cells you would be willing to recieve, and would only be vialbe if you had significant fat deposits (25 pounds or above to hazard a guess).
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Re: If they invented a machine that burned fat, would you approve?
« Reply #77 on: May 30, 2012, 08:59:47 pm »

I'd be okay with that.
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Re: If they invented a machine that burned fat, would you approve?
« Reply #78 on: May 30, 2012, 09:38:14 pm »

Oh and I thought this is was going to be crazy expensive because it would involve fetal stem cells. Gotta get a fetus, gotta extract them, gotta make sure they are viable. But look at that, it turns you they can extract pre-differentiated fat tissue from your body. http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2011-06/tes-cbf060411.php, essentially these cells could become either brown or white fat. You extract them from the patient, cultivate them into brown fat cells in the lab, continue growing them in a lab until you have a substaintial number, then you re-insert them into the patient near the other brown fat cells. The body will likely accept them much more readily than fetal stem cells because it is the body's own tissue.

Although risk might be much greater, due to all the surgery, it would be a lot less expenive and have a greater chance of success. (Risk increase while sucess also increases because there is hardly a risk of dying because of fetal stem cell injection, but a greater risk of dying from surgery. However, there is a greater success of succeding for the surgery, due to it being your body's own cells and such,  while the fetal cells could be attacked by your immune system as foreign invaders (which they are, technically) and rejected.).
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