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Hurize

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Husk Science
« on: August 15, 2012, 06:49:06 pm »
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So I embarked on a sinister biome for !!FUN!! weather

Suddenly after I got a small secured for all walled in a sealed up a "Cloud of Evil Gloom" came by and hit a bunch of ravens

They got called Evil Gloom Raven Zombies
But instead of a zombie tag, They got a "Opposed to all life" tag
Why not a "Zombie" tag?
« Last Edit: August 16, 2012, 03:41:37 pm by Hurize »
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The amount of malice in this thread is actually causing me some concern. I mean, chaining up mothers and forcing them to breed, just so we can drown their children to harvest their organs? Does this strike no one else as absolutely horrific?
You misspelled 'hilarious'

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Re: Missing zombie tags on Zombies?
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2012, 06:52:05 pm »
Because it creats husks, which are worse than zombies. Oh so much worse.
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Re: Missing zombie tags on Zombies?
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2012, 06:55:55 pm »
Quote from: Wrex on August 15, 2012, 06:52:05 pm
Because it creats husks, which are worse than zombies. Oh so much worse.

Well the Husks just got killed by a group of carp, So +1

Also, how are they worse?
« Last Edit: August 15, 2012, 06:59:04 pm by Hurize »
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The amount of malice in this thread is actually causing me some concern. I mean, chaining up mothers and forcing them to breed, just so we can drown their children to harvest their organs? Does this strike no one else as absolutely horrific?
You misspelled 'hilarious'

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Re: Missing zombie tags on Zombies?
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2012, 06:59:35 pm »
I ... I don't even know what to say to that ... that was an amazing thing to say ... carps killed a husk ...
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Re: Missing zombie tags on Zombies?
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2012, 07:00:33 pm »
Quote from: acetech09 on August 15, 2012, 06:59:35 pm
I ... I don't even know what to say to that ... that was an amazing thing to say ... carps killed a husk ...

4 Carps killed 5 husks
Also, My retarded fishery worker went to fish when I disabled it Via Dwarf Therapist

He got Caught in a cloud of the stuff
« Last Edit: August 15, 2012, 07:04:28 pm by Hurize »
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Quote from: Reasonableman on October 10, 2008, 06:18:33 am
The amount of malice in this thread is actually causing me some concern. I mean, chaining up mothers and forcing them to breed, just so we can drown their children to harvest their organs? Does this strike no one else as absolutely horrific?
You misspelled 'hilarious'

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Re: Missing zombie tags on Zombies?
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2012, 07:04:06 pm »
Carp are back baby!
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Re: Missing zombie tags on Zombies?
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2012, 07:08:57 pm »
Whoa, a weird thing this cloud its, seemingly it Drains its victims of blood and it removes any blood off the tile it is on....

I GOT A CLEANER CLOUD
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The amount of malice in this thread is actually causing me some concern. I mean, chaining up mothers and forcing them to breed, just so we can drown their children to harvest their organs? Does this strike no one else as absolutely horrific?
You misspelled 'hilarious'

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Re: Missing zombie tags on Zombies?
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2012, 07:26:40 pm »
Quote from: Hurize on August 15, 2012, 07:08:57 pm
Whoa, a weird thing this cloud its, seemingly it Drains its victims of blood and it removes any blood off the tile it is on....

I GOT A CLEANER CLOUD

That's typical of a Thrall cloud. Thralls are just terrifying. They've been nerfed (they used to be unstoppable), but they are still quite deadly.
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Re: Missing zombie tags on Zombies?
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2012, 07:41:56 pm »
Quote from: acetech09 on August 15, 2012, 07:26:40 pm
Quote from: Hurize on August 15, 2012, 07:08:57 pm
Whoa, a weird thing this cloud its, seemingly it Drains its victims of blood and it removes any blood off the tile it is on....

I GOT A CLEANER CLOUD

That's typical of a Thrall cloud. Thralls are just terrifying. They've been nerfed (they used to be unstoppable), but they are still quite deadly.
I guess the HFS is back on the top of the metaphorical ladder spire. It seems fitting that the carp would be the thing to kill husks.
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Re: Missing zombie tags on Zombies?
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2012, 08:16:45 pm »
Terminology:

"Animated corpse" or "X Corpse" (where X is the creature): necromancer or region-animated dead things.

"[cursed/wicked/evil/creeping/haunting/abominable/devilish/fiendish/heinous/nefarious/profane/vile/accursed/blighted/execrable/infernal/unholy/eerie] [dust/soot/fog/gloom/murk/smoke/vapor] [husk/zombie/thrall]": something that did't die, but was corrupted by evil weather. Comes with a cool random name, but is otherwise alike.

Many people on the forums refer to the animated corpses as "zombies", which can be confusing when compared to the many possible names of "husks".
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Re: Missing zombie tags on Zombies?
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2012, 10:06:31 pm »
Both zombies and husks are OPPOSED_TO_LIFE. The former are, technically, undead.
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Re: Missing zombie tags on Zombies?
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2012, 11:19:44 pm »
In that case, what tag differences make the husks immune to death by anything but bisection/decapitation while the zombies can collapse? (or is husk behavior hardcoded?)
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Re: Missing zombie tags on Zombies?
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2012, 11:53:08 pm »
Quote from: DrKillPatient on August 15, 2012, 11:19:44 pm
In that case, what tag differences make the husks immune to death by anything but bisection/decapitation while the zombiesanimated corpses can collapse? (or is husk behavior hardcoded?)

As far as I can tell from looking at RAW files extracted from "world.sav" in my save game folder (saved uncompressed), they have the same tags added and removed.

To the best of my knowledge, the [I_EFFECT:ANIMATE] part of the interaction that creates animated corpses from corpse "items" makes them collapse after a few hits. Otherwise, they would be as durable as husks. They also don't have the original soul of the creature, and no skills.

What makes husks scary is that they keep their skills (technically the "soul") and equipment, and can learn.

Because of the soul thing, if a dwarf dies in fort mode and is animated, he can also come back as a ghost, whereas husk dwarves won't appear as ghosts until the husk is destroyed.
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Re: Missing zombie tags on Zombies?
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2012, 12:37:00 pm »
Also, husks have tags like NOTHOUGHT, NOBLOOD, and the other Fun things that make bronze colossi so carpin' hard to kill.
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Re: Missing zombie tags on Zombies?
« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2012, 02:59:49 pm »
I am doing !!SCIENCE!! on these husk, and the current diplomat is a husk and seemingly elven husks weak-points is the head and the left leg....
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The amount of malice in this thread is actually causing me some concern. I mean, chaining up mothers and forcing them to breed, just so we can drown their children to harvest their organs? Does this strike no one else as absolutely horrific?
You misspelled 'hilarious'