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[justinlee999]

A "Bersih" rally (Bersih is "clean" in Malay) is being held in Malaysia, updates and news found here:
http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/196320

It was supposed to be a legal rally but shit hit the fan.

My dad went for the rally, and attempts to call him resulted in failure (apparently it's outside coverage), I'm really worried now.

Never mind, after hours of attempts, my dad can be reached again!

Erp, my dad has been hit by tear gas.

[Sensei]

I had to read the post like three times before I realized you meant a protest and not a road rally.

[justinlee999]

I had to read the post like three times before I realized you meant a protest and not a road rally.

Erp, fixed.

Also, apparently some underwear-grade models in a foreign country stipped to their underwear in yellow and carried the Bersih sign.

[justinlee999]

Gah. 404 error.

EDIT: Nevermind it's back on again.

[Loud Whispers]

Malaysia is hardly the place it used to be :/

[justinlee999]

Malaysia is hardly the place it used to be :/

Huh?

[Loud Whispers]

Government is borked, human trafficking is a serious problem, racism is amok and crime is, well, large. Though that's a tangent that we probably should leave to another thread ;/

[justinlee999]

Government is borked, human trafficking is a serious problem, racism is amok and crime is, well, large. Though that's a tangent that we probably should leave to another thread ;/

Have you been here, or?

Racism isn't really bad, or at least I've not encountered much racism.

[Loud Whispers]

Have you been here, or?

Racism isn't really bad, or at least I've not encountered much racism.

1. Yes.
2. Racism is quite bad actually. Very few things as bad as alienation in your own country ;/
Not to mention the legislations that target minorities and non-muslims, putting them at a disadvantage when seeking education, employment e.t.c.
The way I've heard Black and Indian communities talked about, but that might just be the people I talked to. It just worries me how many people shared those views.
I don't mean to insult you at all, and I'm sorry if I have (and every country has it's problems), I was just saying Malaysia isn't the same place it used to be.

[justinlee999]

To be fair, it is pretty sucky being a Muslim there, I'm thankful I'm not a Malay so I won't be forced to believe in Islam.

Drinking means you'll be whipped, extramarital sex means you'll be whipped, etc.

Fake Edit: http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/196348

[Loud Whispers]

Thanks for the information.Really valuable one.Hope to see such kind of informative post more and more.

Why hello thar botty bot bot

[justinlee999]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTGogMq9NZ0
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/bbc-flays-local-censors-for-slashing-bersih-coverage
The plot thickens.

My friend told me yesterday that the BBC World news's article is more comprehensive than the Malaysian one.

[Muz]

Government is borked, human trafficking is a serious problem, racism is amok and crime is, well, large. Though that's a tangent that we probably should leave to another thread ;/

Have you been here, or?

Racism isn't really bad, or at least I've not encountered much racism.

I was going to write a 2 hour long post with citations about how the country's been fucked up in the last few years, but that would be a derail

Yeah, racism has gone really bad in the country. I was applying for a job a while back, and I'm surprised how many high-tech industries have "Chinese-speaking" as an absolute requirement. Some were even more straightforward and listed "Chinese" as a requirement. There's probably more foreign students in public universities than local minorities.

The Islamic regulations really aren't as bad as they used to be, though. About a decade ago, a boy and girl could get fined just for sitting at a lake together, even without romantic actions. And they haven't enforced the drinking thing in a while. Unless you're a gay politician. Gay politicians always get maximum sentences.


Anyway, back to Bersih, it was a mess. I don't buy this whole "fair elections" crap, it's just people opposing the incumbent government.

It was a bad sign when people deny a peaceful protest and surround the place with barbed wire. Sure, send police there just like you send police to watch stadiums. But don't deny people the right to protest - it's deeply ingrained in the culture. One of Malaysia's biggest historical events were the anti-Malayan Union protests.

My best friends were at Bersih. They said they were waiting for the train and were hit by water cannons. Ok, fine, their words are biased. And so are the words of Malaysiakini and other similar opposition newspapers.

There were pictures of the protestors smashing police cars. Hmm.. wait, thousands of protestors and cameras, and all the newspapers are only showing the same few pictures. And according to witnesses, they've been tear gassing and hitting protestors with water cannons for hours by the time they smashed cars.

If the police really did nothing wrong, why the hell would they confiscate cameras from the protests? Massive red flag there.