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[Sadrice]

In the modding forum there's a 'community spellbook' thread with a number of freezing vapor interactions, which are deadly to both target and user without cold resistance.

[Bates]

So if one could make a full set of nethercap armor, could one then make a magmaproof dwarf?
Well not magmaproof, since immersing said dwarf in 7/7 magma would still end with the dwarf on fire, but maybe magmaresistant, so that one's dwarves could wade in 3/7 magma without harm?

Hmm, if that is the case, then it is good that elves only use wood that they have grown themselves.
If elves had access to nethercap.....*SHUDDER*

[rtg593]

Well nethercap logs are SO cold that they are magma resistance soo... perhaps arm hunters (that have no fat) with nethercap bolts and make the hunt imps! It would be like a silver bullet to a werewolf.

Toady changed the way fire works, so now burning off all you fat wont make you immume to fire (you win this time, thermodynamics!)

Hmmm, then we'll call it a bug when I flooded my fort with magma to end it, and my dwarves all swam around in it until it reached 7/7, and they began drowning.

[slothen]

So if one could make a full set of nethercap armor, could one then make a magmaproof dwarf?
Well not magmaproof, since immersing said dwarf in 7/7 magma would still end with the dwarf on fire, but maybe magmaresistant, so that one's dwarves could wade in 3/7 magma without harm?

would save their feet when walking through "puddle/smear of magma"  It would not save them from actual liquid magma.  I recall even 2/7 and 3/7 liquid will completely cover every part of a dwarf.

[GavJ]

So if one could make a full set of nethercap armor, could one then make a magmaproof dwarf?
Well not magmaproof, since immersing said dwarf in 7/7 magma would still end with the dwarf on fire, but maybe magmaresistant, so that one's dwarves could wade in 3/7 magma without harm?

would save their feet when walking through "puddle/smear of magma"  It would not save them from actual liquid magma.  I recall even 2/7 and 3/7 liquid will completely cover every part of a dwarf.

Yes, but if you have a full set of clothing, with at least one of every type of clothing that has a [COVERAGE = 100] tag in the raws, then you should be fully covered.  After a quick glance just now, it does indeed appear to me as if this is the case.  Hoods, for example, have 100% head coverage.

As long as each item is coded as "100%" coverage, DF will not worry about things like how dwarves can see out of a 100% coverage hood, or how they breathe, etc.  It should still fully protect you, whether it actually makes logical sense or not.

Setting aside the problem that you can't make wooden hoods, of course... elves might have such things, or artifacts, though, so it is theoretically POSSIBLE without modding.

[NW_Kohaku]

Don't robes cover the entire body with 100% coverage?  Just edit robes to be made of wood. 

[i2amroy]

I'm fairly certain that since the magma update (to fix dwarves with all of their fat melted off not dying) even if you have 100% coverage you still die.. It takes quite a bit longer, potentially making it possible to quickly walk into the magma and then walk out again, but if you remain in there for a little while then you still die.

[GavJ]

I'm fairly certain that since the magma update (to fix dwarves with all of their fat melted off not dying) even if you have 100% coverage you still die.. It takes quite a bit longer, potentially making it possible to quickly walk into the magma and then walk out again, but if you remain in there for a little while then you still die.

well then we just have to make the DWARVES out of nethercap.

[BastiBasti]

Well nethercap logs are SO cold that they are magma resistance soo... perhaps arm hunters (that have no fat) with nethercap bolts and make the hunt imps! It would be like a silver bullet to a werewolf.

Toady changed the way fire works, so now burning off all you fat wont make you immume to fire (you win this time, thermodynamics!)

Hmmm, then we'll call it a bug when I flooded my fort with magma to end it, and my dwarves all swam around in it until it reached 7/7, and they began drowning.

Well, I'm pretty sure toady did that for the 2012 release. That must of been a early version, but anyway I would much prefer to see dwarf running around screaming and on fire than swimming happly.

[SRD]

Don't robes cover the entire body with 100% coverage?  Just edit robes to be made of wood. 

....Then make adamantine robes o.O?

[Akura]

If I remember correctly, [MAT_FIXED_TEMP], which Nether Cap is the only vanilla material I know of that has that tag, doesn't emit temperature. That is, it doesn't change the temperature of anything it comes into contact to. However, using [MELTING_POINT] and [BOILING_POINT], which sets the temperature ranges at which it's a solid(below [MELTING_POINT]), liquid(between the two), and gas(above [BOILING_POINT]), you can freeze stuff that way, I think.

[Tomsod]

I recently experimented with melting stuff in adventure mode. Got a chunk of some fire demon, which had a fixed temp of 25000 °U. Put in a backpack with some stones or metal objects, it almost immediately melted them (and ignited the backpack). The only materials weren't affected were adamantine and dolomite (melts at about 16500 °U). I guess that's because of environment's influence, not sure, was it direct or through the backpack. If latter, maybe bag sewn of fire webber demon silk could solve the problem. Also, speaking of demon silk, there was some talk about it recently and it seems that it always has a fixed temperature like the demon itself, and if demon isn't material-based (those usually have some strange temp values), it works almost like nether-cap. Dwarves covered in such silks unfortunately won't become magma-proof, but it does help aganist fireballs.

[Ubiq]

So if one could make a full set of nethercap armor, could one then make a magmaproof dwarf?

Doesn't work in Arena Mode as stepping into 1/7 lava with a full set of armor still kills you by melting exposed fingers, toes, and your mouth. The only way around that is with a cloak and you can't make those out of wood.

If you add in a thread-bearing plant that has the same qualities as nethercap wood and make clothes out of that cloth, it might work.

[GavJ]

Nethecap robe:

[Ubiq]

Adding a thread plant with nether-cap's properties seems to work just the same as wooden armor made of nether-cap, but test goblins in the arena with a robe, chausses, and hoods, all made of icicle grass, on top of a full set of nethercap armor still have two fingers on each hand, two toes on each foot, and their mouth melt, which kills them fairly quickly by bleeding out. Apparently, no matter how much coverage you have, those parts are still exposed.