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SchlauFuchs

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Mass Pitting / target training not working
« on: April 10, 2012, 02:11:11 pm »

Hi,

I tried the mass pitting solution with target training as described in http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2012:Mass_pitting#Fortifications , but it is somehow not working. My pit is a doorless fortified room where now 10 goblins hang around. I've told my squads to eliminate them, but they don't move. I'm now waiting many dwarf days but they don't get there. I expected the marksdwarfs to go there but no, nothing. They should have enough equipment to do the job, so why is nothing happening?
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Re: Mass Pitting / target training not working
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2012, 02:17:22 pm »

When you order a dwarf to kill a target, the dwarf first checks to see if he can path to the target.  If there's no path, the dwarf doesn't do anything.  They aren't smart enough to know they can stand on the other side of the fortifications and shoot from there.  Instead, use the move command to manually move them to where they can see the goblins.
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Re: Mass Pitting / target training not working
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2012, 03:17:54 pm »

Yep, that helped. Thanks!
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Re: Mass Pitting / target training not working
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2012, 03:54:15 pm »

Not yet completely working. In the beginning the markdwarfes were firing their bolts into the chamber of doom, but they stopped. I guess they run out of ammunition, but they don't go get fresh bolts. My stock shows there are still bolts, and in the military screen the uinit has set the correct type of bolts.
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Re: Mass Pitting / target training not working
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2012, 05:05:46 pm »

Use a patrol. Put one waypoint at your ammo stockpile, and the other waypoints around the fortifications. When they see the goblins in the pit, they will shoot them. When their ammo runs out, they will resume following the patrol route and get ammo automatically.

Patrol tutorial I made:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypg7xpleceM
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Re: Mass Pitting / target training not working
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2012, 05:14:19 pm »

If they run out of ammo just cancel the move order, if they can't path to the enemy they will go "Pick up equipment".
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Re: Mass Pitting / target training not working
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2012, 05:38:50 pm »

A handy way to ensure you have dwarves always on station and ready to stab/shoot things is to use barracks.

Make a barracks from an armor stand. It can even be an only 1x1 barracks. Assign your squad of choice to that barracks and put them on duty.

They will hang out at the barracks and train up their skills if there is nothing in sight to attack. If there is something to attack, then they will attack it. Once everything is dead they will go back to training.

Using a small or even 1x1 barracks for individual squads is a good way to position armed dwarves strategically while also allowing them to use the downtime to spar or teach each other lessons, which will improve their combat skills or at the very least prevent any rusting.
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Re: Mass Pitting / target training not working
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2012, 06:48:10 pm »

How can I see how much ammo a dwarf has in his inventory?
I have my barracks a bit away from the pit, so my fort needs some redesign now.
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Re: Mass Pitting / target training not working
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2012, 07:41:05 pm »

How can I see how much ammo a dwarf has in his inventory?
I have my barracks a bit away from the pit, so my fort needs some redesign now.
[z]->[i]->[Select quiver and press ENTER]
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