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CyberReaver

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Vampiric Legions
« on: April 01, 2012, 05:10:27 pm »

So, I have been thinking lately about how to permanently deal with these stupid vampires in a way that doesn't involve me cheating or setting up huge dorms to always catch them.  I admit, I don't know too much about them, but what would prevent me from knocking a vampire down a hole near my well, contaminating the water with his blood and turning all of my dwarves into vampires? Would that simply give me ome fun, or old that actually solve the "problem" and give me dwarves that also do nothing but work? Or would they all simply go crazy from lack of booze?
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psychologicalshock

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Re: Vampiric Legions
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2012, 05:14:00 pm »

You would have a dead (pardon the pun) fortress where nothing gets done because your vampires work at the speed of very very wet paint drying.
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« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2012, 05:16:29 pm »

You would have a dead (pardon the pun) fortress where nothing gets done because your vampires work at the speed of very very wet paint drying.
And that's when they haven't gone on a thirteen-year break.
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« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2012, 05:22:18 pm »

Yeah in 4 years of having 3 vampires make blocks (with one hauling them until another one goes to rest and thus becomes the hauler) they only made perhaps 120 blocks.
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« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2012, 05:46:17 pm »

If vampires are allowed to feed, do they lose the thirsty tag and speed their work back up?

Perhaps a fortress of vampires who happen to get regular waves of cattle...ehem, I mean migrants, wouldn't be so disfunctional.
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« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2012, 06:27:09 pm »

If vampires are allowed to feed, do they lose the thirsty tag and speed their work back up?
nope.
Bugs me out right now
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« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2012, 06:55:11 pm »

I saw on the wiki that undead don't attack vampires. Maybe convert them to an anti-undead force? Or do undead attack once attacked?
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CyberReaver

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« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2012, 07:22:00 pm »

You would have a dead (pardon the pun) fortress where nothing gets done because your vampires work at the speed of very very wet paint drying.

Hmm, well I guess I'd better come with another solution, although having a fortress of 200 vampires still sounds hilarious, does anyone know exactly what the thirsty delay increases are?
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Re: Vampiric Legions
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2012, 09:24:49 pm »

The main problem is that dwarven vampires still require alcohol to function properly, but they only get bloodthirsty, not normal-thirsty, so they never naturally drink booze.  This results in hilarious amounts of slowdown.  This could be dealt with either by causing dwarven vampires to drink alcohol every so often, or causing them to not be susceptible to the [ALCOHOL_DEPENDENT] tag. 
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Re: Vampiric Legions
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2012, 09:35:09 pm »

I saw on the wiki that undead don't attack vampires. Maybe convert them to an anti-undead force? Or do undead attack once attacked?
I know that in DFVD Vampires were ignored by the undead unless directly attacked, they would fight back but if five zombies were standing in a circle and you ordered one killed they would only target that one and only that one would fight back. I haven't done an evil embark lately but Toady said something about fixing loyalty bugs in one of the updates, that may have been what he was talking about.