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DuckBoy2

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Do Invaders Get Infections?
« on: March 21, 2012, 12:18:18 am »

Pretty much says all in the title, I'd like to make a whole bunch of goblin pus covered goblins, but I cant remember the last time one lasted long enough to get infected.  I figure syndromes would cause the same deliciously slow and messy deaths Im looking for, but I cant be bothered to roll the dice long enough. 

Im pretty sure I can separate a few goblins off and injure them, but I could use some tips on maximizing syndromes, infections and poisons, assuming any of its even possible. 

Little green bastards dont deserve a quick death, not after the last time...
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Re: Do Invaders Get Infections?
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2012, 06:52:42 am »

Hmm. Well, at least goblins have [GETS_WOUND_INFECTIONS] and [GETS_INFECTIONS_FROM_ROT] tags. I suppose you could first set up a danger room for the creature which blood you need. Get that creature there and set a lever to be pulled repeatedly. The lever is connected to floor spikes. Then when the creature has died a messy death, the goblins are ready to play in the room. I suppose you could wound them once as well with the floor spikes, to promote wound infections. If you need a dwarf to move infected body parts, try picking one that's highly resistant to diseases. Be sure to set up a decontamination area. You can't have that dwarf enter the general population while covered in infectious blood. Might I also suggest that you build one of the danger room walls out of glass, so that your dwarven scientists can observe the results upclose?

All this is theoretical. I have no real experience in biological weapons testing in DF.
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Re: Do Invaders Get Infections?
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2012, 06:58:47 am »

Unleash a gaseous beastie on the poor suckers. Even if they manage to kill it, they won't have much time to celebrate.
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Re: Do Invaders Get Infections?
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2012, 08:44:28 am »

capture GCS, tame it.  set up a cage trap room with the GCS in the middle so it can web forgotten beasts that come by (you can look up how to do this).  bait the trap.  Ideally you have a FB that can project its syndrome.  If it just emits poisonous dust everywhere, your best bet may be to wall the area where you want the extract and pit an unarmed goblin in it so the beast coats the area, then recapture it.  Then force invaders to path through that area.  Probably easiest if you don't use invaders, and only use the FB to infect caged prisoners in a controlled setting.
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Re: Do Invaders Get Infections?
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2012, 09:19:53 am »

I haven't tried it with goblins, but I do know from experience that invading elves can get infections.  I once dropped an entire elven siege into a pit trap not quite deep enough to kill them, and then had untrained marksdwarves shoot them with bone bolts for a while.  It took a long time for the last of them to die.  I didn't get any announcements that any of them had died from infections, but later after my engravers detailed some rooms, I inspected the engravings and saw that some of them showed elved dying from infection during that siege.  This wasn't a syndrome-induced infection, however, just the normal infection any creature can get from uncleaned wounds.
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Re: Do Invaders Get Infections?
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2012, 11:41:47 am »

I can confirm goblins can die of infections ^-^

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Re: Do Invaders Get Infections?
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2012, 03:57:50 am »

They do. i had a particularly memorable torture chamber filled with vicious trained crundles. goblins went in, fully armorer and hefting weapons, and would maybe get one or two before the swarm got them (i put a few nest boxes into the pit, so the swarm grew). After 5-6 years of listening to the anguished screams of my captives, it took just one particularly agile goblin thief to dismember all of the crundles in the pit.

he was like a green ninja, only got a few scratches.

when he died of infection i had his body hauled to the magma sea. he deserved to join armok, in his next life he would surely be reborn as a dwarf
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