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Daveorock

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Uh oh... vampires and moods
« on: March 17, 2012, 11:56:39 pm »

So my vampire eternal-bookkeeper just went into a fey mood, and I wonder, will he try to empty any dwarves if I release him? Getting him safely into his room afterwards will be no problem (managed lever, burrow, tell him to pull it and he will), just wondering about during his freedom.
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The Dog Delusion

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Re: Uh oh... vampires and moods
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2012, 12:12:36 am »

vampire eternal-bookkeeper

Just wanted to highlight that and say that a vampire bookkeeper is an awesome idea. Lock him in a 2x2 office (with no doors) and let him go wild!

will he try to empty any dwarves if I release him?

I imagine that, like regular dwarves, he will put all other needs on hold until his mood is completed. A moody dwarf doesn't eat, sleep, or drink, so a moody vampire (probably) wouldn't either. Assume that it's safe, and try it out for science!
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Re: Uh oh... vampires and moods
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2012, 12:43:17 am »

If you are super super worried about it, then build the workshop next to his room, seal it, then let him out into it. dump needed materials next to the wall, seal and repeat. Personally though.. I vote for just letting him loose to see what happens. Or let the mood fail and hope you get a berserk vampire to weaponize at a later date..
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Flying Dice

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Re: Uh oh... vampires and moods
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2012, 01:23:09 am »

Let it loose. If you're really worried, burrow your important dwarves in a saferoom.
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Re: Uh oh... vampires and moods
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2012, 05:14:06 am »

This requires Science.
Burrow the important dwarves someplace safe and let him out to see if he eats a fish cleaner in the middle of his mood or not.
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Daveorock

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Re: Uh oh... vampires and moods
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2012, 10:57:43 am »

Just woke up, so I'm going to release him, and if he starts heading for the bedrooms, I can lock the doors of sleeping dwarves (this works, btw, so if a vampire is heading for a room and you know it, lock the door and he turns right around and goes back to work). Also, that burrow and artifact glitch... He is assigned to a burrow, does that mean that glitch is inevitable (the one where they use TONS of items)? Or is it if they are assigned when they claim a workshop?
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Re: Uh oh... vampires and moods
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2012, 12:13:52 pm »

There is a pretty good chance that the vampire will drain one of your dwarves after making an artifact. You can probably forcefully confine him if you frame him for committing a murder if an unresolved case exists. Next time you get a vampire bookkeeper, put a craftsdwarfshop in his office to make sealing him up again easier.
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Daveorock

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Re: Uh oh... vampires and moods
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2012, 12:39:20 pm »

It's fine, he make his artifact (candy scepter) and then I locked him back up. Again, fyi, if you tell a vampire to pull a lever he/she WILL pull that lever, and will not drain any dwarves until that lever is pulled (this has worked the 10 times I've done it).
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Re: Uh oh... vampires and moods
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2012, 12:51:06 pm »

Dwarves obey orders first.  If you get the "artifact is finished!" popup, don't unpause, and order the vampire into a burrow or a lever, he'll go do that.

Dwarves will only disobey these orders if they're hungry, thirsty, sleep, on break, etc.  In other words, something they must do to keep functioning.  A vampire has none of these needs, and the desire to feed is not a survival need - they will survive without blood.  Thus, a vampire will gladly ignore the need to feed and go do whatever he's told.

For that matter, I think you could put a vampire in the communal dorms with a lever on /R and he wouldn't touch any of the sleeping dwarves, ever.