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smeeprocket

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Armour
« on: February 22, 2012, 01:02:24 am »

Okay, I can't find an answer to this. If I have a bronze mail shirt and a copper breastplate, which one is better? What if the BP is masterwork, and the mail shirt is average?

Iron chain leggings or bronze greaves?

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Bronze low boots or copper high boots?
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Re: Armour
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2012, 02:17:15 am »

I thought you could wear both the chain and the plate breast pieces.
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Re: Armour
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2012, 02:21:30 am »

Okay, I can't find an answer to this. If I have a bronze mail shirt and a copper breastplate, which one is better? What if the BP is masterwork, and the mail shirt is average?

Iron chain leggings or bronze greaves?

and

Bronze low boots or copper high boots?
you can wear two mail shirts and one breastplate.  if it is not letting you do so, remove something you are wearing on yourt upper body (like a cloth/leather coat)

you can wear the leggings with the greaves, i think.  again, try removing any cloth pants you may have equiped.

bronze low boots will deflect more, but copper high boots protect a larger area.
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Re: Armour
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2012, 09:49:47 pm »

...You can wear three mail shirts underneath a breastplate.

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Re: Armour
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2012, 12:16:20 am »

you can wear the leggings with the greaves, i think.  again, try removing any cloth pants you may have equiped.

You cannot wear leggings with greaves since they are both shaped pieces of armor.

Only masterwork and artifact armors give a deflection bonus of 2x and 3x respectively.

Optimal armor set up:

You can wear 2 caps, helm and 6 hoods on your head or a mask and helm and 6 hoods.

You can wear 3 mail shirts, 1 breastplate and 6 cloaks or a ton of capes on your body.

You can wear 2 pair of trousers and 1 pair of greaves on your legs or 3 long skirts instead of trousers.

You can wear 1 pair of mittens and 1 pair of gauntlets on your hands.

You can wear a pair of socks or chausses and high boots on your feet.

Greaves > Leggings.

I like wearing 1 mask instead of two caps because a mask will cover your face and the helm can cover anything your caps would.

Cloaks are better than capes, but I have yet to find any cloaks in adventure mode.

Mittens > gloves.

High boots > low boots, chausses > socks

Be aware that you are probably not going to be able to wear 6 cloaks since you will most likely want to wear at least a backpack and/or quiver.

Hope this clears things up.

Also, I'm amazed that I could recall that from memory since I just passed out and woke up and I am kinda groggy.



« Last Edit: February 23, 2012, 01:46:26 am by Berserkenstein »
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Re: Armour
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2012, 12:27:53 am »

I think this is beside the point - Smeeprocket is asking if, given a choice between sub-optimal choices, which sub-optimal choice is best?

As in, if you were forced to choose between steel low boots and iron high boots, which is preferable. 

I'm not really sure on that one, although I'd generally say to go for coverage in general.

I'd take the masterwork armor most of the time, though, as that deflection bonus is glorious.

I also don't think the differences between copper and bronze are that great since 0.31 came out, and bronze really got the shaft. 
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Re: Armour
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2012, 12:45:18 am »

Low boots are significantly lighter then high boots. It could be important if your guy is prone to an encumbrance penalty and some other piece of armor, like grieves, already cover the lower legs.

Also, how does layering of armor work, exactly? It doesn't seem to make as much of a difference as I'd think it should. I can wear a steel helm and two steel caps and still get my skull blasted apart by bogeymen.

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Re: Armour
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2012, 12:50:35 am »

Low boots are significantly lighter then high boots. It could be important if your guy is prone to an encumbrance penalty and some other piece of armor, like grieves, already cover the lower legs.

Also, how does layering of armor work, exactly? It doesn't seem to make as much of a difference as I'd think it should. I can wear a steel helm and two steel caps and still get my skull blasted apart by bogeymen.
I think bogeymen just function on a higher level as non-fearing hate machines of pain. Armor only works if they let it.
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Re: Armour
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2012, 01:22:20 am »

huh.  odd that chain leggings are shaped.  i mean, they are no more shaped than a chain shirt.
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Re: Armour
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2012, 01:44:26 am »

I think this is beside the point - Smeeprocket is asking if, given a choice between sub-optimal choices, which sub-optimal choice is best?

As in, if you were forced to choose between steel low boots and iron high boots, which is preferable. 

I'm not really sure on that one, although I'd generally say to go for coverage in general.

I'd take the masterwork armor most of the time, though, as that deflection bonus is glorious.

I also don't think the differences between copper and bronze are that great since 0.31 came out, and bronze really got the shaft.
I quoted someone other than the op, I was responding to them. 

Also the OP appears to be asking what material types AND armor types are better than the other, a sign that he doesn't know about how the armor works in general, which is understandable.   

Better to direct the op to this armor article so they can decide for themselves, now and for the future.

In terms of what armor would be better, any armor made of a particular metal will be good against weapons of the same material or less unless those weapons are blunt. 
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