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OwlEpicurus

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Help with trig in a physics problem
« on: January 25, 2012, 08:59:09 pm »

So after staring at trig identities for 3 hours, I decided I'm completely stuck.  I need to solve the equation

0.5*a*cos(u)*[2*v/(a*sin(u))]^2 = d

for u.  I got the equation to

cos(u)*[csc(u)]^2 = a*d/(2*v^2)

but that's the last part I'm even remotely sure about.  (If it's wrong then I guess that's where the problem is.)  I posted something on the class discussion page but haven't gotten a response yet.  I just want an idea of where to go from here.  Everything I've tried so far has wound up in a dead end - either I don't know how to continue, or I end up back where I started.  I doesn't help that the professor said in class today that it took him half a page of trig to solve it.

Thanks in advance for any help.

(For reference: Trig Identities, and the Wikipedia Page)
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RulerOfNothing

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Re: Help with trig in a physics problem
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2012, 09:02:57 pm »

Well, we know that sin(u)^2=1-cos(u)^2; we can then get cos(u)=(a*d/(2*v^2))*(1-cos(u)^2) which is a quadratic equation in cos(u). Does this help?
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OwlEpicurus

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Re: Help with trig in a physics problem
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2012, 09:22:43 pm »

Well, we know that sin(u)^2=1-cos(u)^2; we can then get cos(u)=(a*d/(2*v^2))*(1-cos(u)^2) which is a quadratic equation in cos(u). Does this help?

...I can't believe that worked.  Thank you.  I swear, though, that the professor said you had to use trig identities to solve it, and that it took him a while to do it.  I guess he also missed this.
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Re: Help with trig in a physics problem
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2012, 09:26:01 pm »

sin(u)^2=1-cos(u)^2 is a trigionometric identity, one of the Pythagoran ones to be precise.
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Re: Help with trig in a physics problem
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2012, 06:33:58 pm »

This should be some sort of math help thread.

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Re: Help with trig in a physics problem
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2012, 06:36:40 pm »

This should be some sort of math help thread.

There is a math help thread either here or in GD. Why not take the time to look for it?
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Re: Help with trig in a physics problem
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2012, 06:38:59 pm »

This should be some sort of math help thread.

There is a math help thread either here or in GD. Why not take the time to look for it?
Because I'm lazy and shiftless.

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Re: Help with trig in a physics problem
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2012, 07:03:47 pm »

I looked in this forum and I didn't find one, and I didn't think to look in general at the time.  :-[ Well, here's the math help thread from the other forum, if anyone is interested.
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