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[tryrar]

So, I've done many forts, but I've never been able to find the demonic fortress. How do I go about reliably finding this feature?

[Loud Whispers]

Systematically embark in one region tile. Look for a masterwork adamantine weapon in the (z) (stocks) (weapons) section. The Fortress is now demonic

[NecroRebel]

Make your world, then make a copy of it. On one copy, embark over full 16x16 areas, see if there's an upright candy weapon, locate it, figure out which particular local tile it's in (each tile on the embark map's local section is a 48x48 tile in fort mode), then on the other copy embark on the same region tile on the same local map square that the demonic fortress was in the first copy.

[tryrar]

well, the systematic approach was no joy(I even did reveal to make sure DF wasn't messing up!) and 16x16 crashes my system, so now what?

[NecroRebel]

The method I outlined above, except instead of 16x16, "as large as you can embark on without crashing." 8x8 maps would require up to 4 times as many embarkation attempts to search a given region tile, but if you don't care about starting resources, you can get into a map reasonably quickly. Just embark, look around, then abandon if you don't see the structure and repeat.

[tryrar]

quick question: Does killing DF without saving change the location of the demon fort? I've been using DFhack's kill utility to avoid unsightly rows of forts and so I don't have to duplicate the world

[Mechanoid]

quick question: Does killing DF without saving change the location of the demon fort? I've been using DFhack's kill utility to avoid unsightly rows of forts and so I don't have to duplicate the world

the location of the demon fortress is always static, but the layout of the fortress itself is likely to change as much as the surrounding minerals and your starting 7 dwarves do (the fortress layout may not actually change, but i'm not entirely sure) when you kill the DF process before saving and then embarking again on the exact same spot.

in fact, you can count out 48x48 squares (the size of one local map tile) from the corner of the map [all the way to the demon fortress, in those 48x48 square chunks] and accurately tell which tile of the region the demon fort is on, and make a 2x2 tile fortress for maximum game speed.

[thegoatgod_pan]

If you want to play around with one, the Inn of Drowning in my sig has a pristine untouched demonic fortress in the third cavern level.  Granted there is already a fort in the way, but...nothing prevents you from loading the earliest save in the threat and starting from scratch.

[tryrar]

....then I'm stumped as I can't seem to find it. What's up with that?!

[Alkhemia]

Do you have 3 cavern layers?

[tryrar]

....I thought you only needed 2 cavern layers for the demon fort? if not, then ok then