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Ohlawdy

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I want to learn how to medicine and (micro)biology!
« on: January 06, 2012, 12:31:39 am »

Why you may ask? It is my last year of high school and I am rocking a 3.8 GPA and have lots of free time. Next year I will be entering into college as a Biology Pre-Med student. My major interest in biology is in the microbiology part. This summer I will be taking a course to become an EMT-B. I've already taken a basic high school Biology class and Human Anatomy & Physiology class. I've never taken a Chemistry class however and this year opted to take Physics (which is considered the most challenging science class at my school) to see how I liked it. My school makes 9th grade students take a basic "Lab Science" class which is just very basic biology, chemistry, physics, geology, etc. so I only got to pick 3 science classes during high school.

I'm interested in self-teaching myself basic human anatomy & physiology, and biology (more so on the micro level, but I realize all of it is important). Of course I will have to learn some chemistry too as it is a huge part of medicine. I'm also interested in learning first aid and basic medical procedures that I would be learning in my EMT-B course. Everything within the areas I listed interest me greatly and I would love to sit down and learn some basic stuff before taking formal courses. I plan to quiz myself and write up "tests" for myself that I would go and do every once in awhile to make sure I retain the knowledge.

The problem I am facing is that I don't have any resources to learn any of this stuff. I don't have access to any of my schools' textbooks. The library is always an option but I have had issues in the past including that my town's library is doesn't have a very good selection (both quality and quantity) of educational books. I have the internet at my disposal but it is enormous and I have no idea what is good or bad. Plus many sites don't go into very good detail. I don't think 1 page is good enough to describe the entire human respiratory system. I would just buy textbooks myself but since I will be doing that for formal courses soon it would be a waste of money.

Short story: What are some free resources to learn medicine, biology, and chemistry?
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Re: I want to learn how to medicine and (micro)biology!
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2012, 12:44:31 am »

First, make a Plan B for if the Bio/PreMed thing doesn't work out.  It's one of the most dropped out of programs at most universities because students don't realize how much harder college is than high school.  Seriously, you may not need it, but have that backup plan.

Other than that, use your local library.  Most libraries have some for of universal borrowing whereby you can get materials from other libraries.  Relevant scientific journals are also helpful and so are the various databases that your library may or may not subscribe to.  I don't know if university libraries will let guests into the subscription databases for financial reasons, but they're required by law to give you access to books.  Also never hurt to email professors.  They're usually happy to help prospective students.  You might also find some things on GoogleBooks or similar serves and cramster.com is very helpful, too.  Some of its features are paid, though.  And never, ever forget wolframalpha.com
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Re: I want to learn how to medicine and (micro)biology!
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2012, 12:59:33 am »

Thanks. I do know that it is the most dropped out program and how important a backup plan is. I also realize that it is very possible I'll change my mind on what I want to do with my life. Right now my backup plan isn't very fleshed out or very well researched. It basically just consists of possibly/hopefully going farther than a bachelors and doing something in the microbiology field (not sure what specific part), maybe in research or something dealing with diseases. I hope to get some basic research experience during college to see if research is something I could really do as a career. Outside of a career that has something to do with biology/medicine, I have no clue what I could see myself doing for the rest of my life which is one of my greatest worries.

I completely forgot about my local community college's library. I'll be sure to check it out.
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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2012, 01:11:56 am »

Consider computational science as an alternate plan.  Or computer science.  I know of at least one major medical entity in the are that does all of its software development inhouse and a number of other companies that do a lot of medical software contracting.  Biology is intentionally a hard program.  There are a lot of high school hopeful that think they're queens and kings of the subject that get curbstopped in their first few courses.  There's so many that schools have to intentionally weed out as many as they can.
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Re: I want to learn how to medicine and (micro)biology!
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2012, 02:12:28 am »

Anatomy: the obvious reference is Netter (which isn't a bad idea, really), but the book I found most useful in this regard in uni was Heinz Feneis'. At least the exams I had made a lot of references to inervation, function, insertions, and anatomical relations. Feneis gives you all that and is really compact. Netter has lots of pretty pictures, and I guess it can be useful in a dissection setting, but is not enough in itself. Moore is too full of useless trivia. Really, if I had to pick just one, I'd go for Feneis. It has decent drawings too, so it's not like you'll be learning just through arid text. You'll know the relevant tidbits, and know how the organ looks, too.

Biochemistry: Lehninger (and other two simmilar books whose names I've forgotten) were recommended to us, but I did not really give them much use. Still, it's good having one of those as a reference in case something that you don't know pops up. There was one Physico-chemical chemistry handbook which was quite complete, and addressed good chunks of the inorganic and organic chemistry which was bundled up in the course.

Physiology: Guyton-Hall for base physiology (links a lot with biochemistry, so make sure you're fresh in that regard). Very dense, lots of stuff, and unlike in the former examples it's more often than not important :-\. Despopoulus physiology atlas schematizes many important processes, so you might want to give that a checkout for a start.

Histology: Genesser is the one to swear by in this, but there are histo atlases out there which can come in very handy to give fast checkouts, in a pinch (eg: to prepare an exam in a short time). Cant give a pathological anatomy recommendation because tour dear PA teacher followed his own book, and thus I got that one.

General Pathology: we went with Sissinius'. It's a quite good book, really, can be an useful reference further on too.

The "subjects" (cardio, pneuml, et al): just buy an internal medicine textbook (Harrison's for example, although it isn't my favorite) and go by that, referring to the GP or physio books when needed. You might want to buy an ekg manual, although, tbh, while it's important, it takes an unrealistic ammount of time to make a headway in proper ekg interpretation, so it's easier to just learn a few rules of thumb and go by thwt (they'll likely cover most of the stuff that can fall in an exam.

Pharma: goodmall&gillman is the reference, but you'd do better by getting whatever smaller book they recommend, or failing that, former years' notes. It's not realistic to study pharma via GG.

Thats all I can think of right now. Some generl notes

- as it has been said above: overconfidence is a bane. Don't assume it's easy. Even if it seems easy. Difficulty can creep upon you simply by the sheer volume of stuff you have to study, even if for the most part individual bits aren't too hard.

- related to the above: faking out exams is far less of an option than it was in high school. You can't really hope to just go to a couple of classes and skim through the importnt parts of a subject the day before the exam, because chances most of the material will show up one way or the other. (It can still be done, mind you, but it's harder to pull off, the results are not spectacular, and it's risky). So when in doubt, study as much as you can.

- if you can find USMLE resumes or the like you might find them easier than going by the textbooks, and will cover the most important things anyway

- give special importance to other year's exams. Go through them over and over

- regard your classmates as potential piranhas, and take what they say with a pinch of salt.  of
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Re: I want to learn how to medicine and (micro)biology!
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2012, 12:00:54 am »

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Re: I want to learn how to medicine and (micro)biology!
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2012, 12:26:33 am »

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and his 1997 textbook, titled Evolutionary Biology goes for $8.
Too old, IMO. Buying a textbook outdated by a couple of years is one thing. Buying a relic is another (except in rather static subjects. An old anatomy textbook will likely remain more up-to-events than a biochemistry one)
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« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2012, 12:31:08 am »

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and his 1997 textbook, titled Evolutionary Biology goes for $8.
Too old, IMO. Buying a textbook outdated by a couple of years is one thing. Buying a relic is another (except in rather static subjects. An old anatomy textbook will likely remain more up-to-events than a biochemistry one)

Agreed, the natural sciences tend to advance quickly.  A fifteen year old textbook is probably rife with inaccuracies by virtue of advancements since it was written.  I don't like going older than a few years with things like this.
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