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jasonwill2

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pop cap not working?
« on: November 17, 2011, 10:44:33 pm »

I went into my d_int files and put the pop cap at 120 a while back... and migrants put me over 150.

Anyway later I made a new fort and wanted to see if I could run with 12 dwarves and set my cap to 12... now im over that limit.

It looks like this in the d_int file:

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You can set the maximum population of your fortress here.  Keep in mind that your population must be at least 80 to get a king and 100 to obtain the current game features.

[POPULATION_CAP:12]
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Re: pop cap not working?
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2011, 10:58:43 pm »

a) The game checks your population cap when your home civ's liaison arrives, so you can get migrants between setting the pop cap and the dwarven caravan's arrival.
b) The game won't shut off migrants mid-wave if the cap is reached - you'll get the entire wave.
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Re: pop cap not working?
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2011, 11:34:13 pm »

Also I believe that if your civilization is far enough away form your fort then there might be a migration wave or two "in transit" from the civilization to your fort that will still show up even though you are over.

As for the 12 dwarves, remember that the first two waves of migrants are hardcoded and will show up no matter what your settings are, and will even show up if your civilization is dead. Also I think there is a hardcoded population minimum (20 maybe) that you will receive migrants under regardless of settings.
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Re: pop cap not working?
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2011, 11:36:56 pm »

Actually, like I said, the game waits for the first caravan - my current fort is made by a modded civ with caravans in the summer and only the first wave is guaranteed there.
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Re: pop cap not working?
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2011, 03:53:18 am »



Ah, so the check against the cap happens upon the arrival of the liaison? That makes quite a lot of sense. Thanks for the heads up!
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Re: pop cap not working?
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2011, 11:33:02 am »

From what I understand, the child cap is a percentage of current population, so your fortress could slowly grow to a large number of dwarves over the years, as children grow into adults, freeing up a slot for another child (and gradually producing more slots for future children, if total population rises in spite of moods/invaders/tantrums/magma/etc.).

You could still become the capital...in 50 or 100 years...
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Re: pop cap not working?
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2011, 02:43:32 pm »

Actually, one can also set a hard cap. The more stringent of the two conditions (hard or percent cap) is met.
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Re: pop cap not working?
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2011, 02:49:28 pm »

the 120  cap on the one fort seemed to work after our liason came. as for the fort with 12, i got bored with that one and wanted to use that world for adventuring!
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Re: pop cap not working?
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2011, 09:30:16 pm »

the 120  cap on the one fort seemed to work after our liason came. as for the fort with 12, i got bored with that one and wanted to use that world for adventuring!

well some advice.
if 10+ above pop cap is a problem just put the little buggers on a draw bridge over 10 z lvls(1 z per dwarf) and just let the magic happen as your lil dwarfies fly away.
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Re: pop cap not working?
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2011, 11:05:41 pm »

Also I think there is a hardcoded population minimum (20 maybe) that you will receive migrants under regardless of settings.
The hardcoded waves have a minimum of 2 dwarves each, which makes the minimum population 11.
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Re: pop cap not working?
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2011, 11:23:14 pm »

Also I think there is a hardcoded population minimum (20 maybe) that you will receive migrants under regardless of settings.
The hardcoded waves have a minimum of 2 dwarves each, which makes the minimum population 11.


well some advice.
if 10+ above pop cap is a problem just put the little buggers on a draw bridge over 10 z lvls(1 z per dwarf) and just let the magic happen as your lil dwarfies fly away.

pop=7 agean.




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