Bay 12 Games Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

Author Topic: Wrestling/striking synergy  (Read 1142 times)

Vindictus

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Wrestling/striking synergy
« on: October 18, 2011, 01:56:31 pm »

Allow me to begin this with a short story.

Here is my adventurer, who I have had wrestling badgers to death for several days. He is a legendary +10 wrestler and fighter, a legendary dodger, and also a competent swordsdwarf. So, I go into a bandit camp, with one or two members. I duck behind the first bandit and grab him by the head with my left arm, then I move to slash his throat open with my bronze scimitar.

Unfortunately, despite having the poor sod literally in the palm of my hand, I cannot slash his throat. It is somehow impossible; I cannot land the blow squarely. Confused and irritated, I kick the bandit away and grab his partner and take him down by the arm, step on his chest and move to slice this ones head off proper-like. But despite being prone and pinned, I still cannot decapitate him! In my irritation, I choke the bitches to death and then later die via dodging a bolt into a river.

My request is this- would it be possible to update the system to where wrestling and striking techniques could be used in unision, rather than being seperated? So a knife-using wrestler can carve pretty designs as he breaks bones, and so a puncher/kicker can slam his opponents head into his knee? Because I think creating that kind of technique would increase the realism- and epicness- of adventurer combat by several levels.
Logged
Well, I now have an urge to end sentient life.

I think I'll go meditate for a bit.

peskyninja

  • Bay Watcher
  • Natural de-selector
    • View Profile
Re: Wrestling/striking synergy
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2011, 11:10:05 am »

Combat system need some improving the current system is just a
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
(try to guess).
Logged
Burn the land and boil the sea. You can't take the sky from me

Thou son of a b*tch wilt not ever make subjects of Christian sons; we have no fear of your army, by land and by sea we will battle with thee, f**k thy mother.

coolio678

  • Bay Watcher
  • whooshing winds and all that jazz
    • View Profile
Re: Wrestling/striking synergy
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2011, 02:52:40 pm »

Combat system need some improving the current system is just a
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
(try to guess).
and this placeholder is 5x more complex than any big budget game has managed (ASCII does help)

as for the idea, it would be nice. I wasn't aware of being able to stand on people, pinning them. I'll have to try and choke some bandits doing that later. Being able to chop them up while you do that could also be cool.
Logged
Dwarves passing by get good thoughts from the mist of water and exploding felines.
Anyone of the equivalent to the royal bloodline in a nomadic group would have a sun tattooed on their hand, or a scrotum on their forehead (it's a little-known fact that fraternities are based off of long-forgotten tribes).

Vindictus

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Wrestling/striking synergy
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2011, 05:20:22 pm »

As for the pinning, with my foot... What I think I actually did was referred to as 'grabbing the chest' with my [lower?]leg, but it makes more sense and is easier to visualize as pinning with my foot, esp. considering he was prone and I was standing. In the same way, kicking has no knockback. The story was completely true other than those minor modifications though.

If I was any good at modding, I'd try to update the system myself, but as I'm not... I just have to appeal to the modders and developers, in the hopes that one will be inspired or something.
Logged
Well, I now have an urge to end sentient life.

I think I'll go meditate for a bit.

assimilateur

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Wrestling/striking synergy
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2011, 06:40:27 pm »

Assuming that this is indeed moddable is very, perhaps unwarrantably, optimistic. But I like your suggestion.
Logged

RenoFox

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Wrestling/striking synergy
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2011, 08:11:47 pm »

At the moment grabbing only stops an enemy from dodging. Standing on the same square keeps him "pinned" in the sense that he can't stand up.

There are a lot of combat details on the to-do list, mainly keeping track of positions and reach. At the moment a dwarf can just bite a giant in the nose or grab someones foot and head with a single limb, but in the later goals the larger monsters will need climbing them Shadow of the Colossus -style.

inEQUALITY

  • Bay Watcher
  • Living On the Mirror's Edge
    • View Profile
Re: Wrestling/striking synergy
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2011, 08:25:58 pm »

If I was any good at modding, I'd try to update the system myself, but as I'm not... I just have to appeal to the modders and developers, in the hopes that one will be inspired or something.

Believe you me, we modders would have done this long ago were it possible. But you're asking us to change something that's hardcoded when we don't have source code to work with. It's not possible like that.
Logged
Quote from: Carl Sagan
It does no harm to the romance of the sunset to know a little bit about it.
If the magma cannon doesn't count, they aren't proper scientists.

Vindictus

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: Wrestling/striking synergy
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2011, 08:35:23 pm »

Oh?

I thought I just wasn't able to find the code to modify it. Again, no coding knowledge, and not even a 'dabbling' modder here.

So, I just have to hope the Toady one looks at this idea and likes it then, I guess?
Logged
Well, I now have an urge to end sentient life.

I think I'll go meditate for a bit.

coolio678

  • Bay Watcher
  • whooshing winds and all that jazz
    • View Profile
Re: Wrestling/striking synergy
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2011, 05:25:36 pm »

As for the pinning, with my foot... What I think I actually did was referred to as 'grabbing the chest' with my [lower?]leg, but it makes more sense and is easier to visualize as pinning with my foot, esp. considering he was prone and I was standing. In the same way, kicking has no knockback. The story was completely true other than those minor modifications though.

If I was any good at modding, I'd try to update the system myself, but as I'm not... I just have to appeal to the modders and developers, in the hopes that one will be inspired or something.
I get it now.
Logged
Dwarves passing by get good thoughts from the mist of water and exploding felines.
Anyone of the equivalent to the royal bloodline in a nomadic group would have a sun tattooed on their hand, or a scrotum on their forehead (it's a little-known fact that fraternities are based off of long-forgotten tribes).