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Victuz

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Dye Thread or Cloth?
« on: September 28, 2011, 04:05:59 pm »

Just a quick question. is there any difference as to what order I dye my stuff in?
Like an increase in value or something.

PS. Oh also is there a way to set a stockpile to gather only cloth of a certain color? I can't find any specific option for such a thing but it's always worth asking. Worst case scenario I can always set a burrow and forbid the "illegal" color for the clothmaker in it.
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Re: Dye Thread or Cloth?
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2011, 10:05:20 pm »

Just a quick question. is there any difference as to what order I dye my stuff in?
Like an increase in value or something.

PS. Oh also is there a way to set a stockpile to gather only cloth of a certain color? I can't find any specific option for such a thing but it's always worth asking. Worst case scenario I can always set a burrow and forbid the "illegal" color for the clothmaker in it.

well i don't know about dyeing adding value or an order. but i think just because it works this way in REAL LIFE, one could die both cloth and clothes.

im not an uber noob and am still trying to make a stronge defence without useing cage traps. so if wrong im wrong. but i'm just going of of logic.

P.S. if i'm wrong at least you had a FUN time
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Re: Dye Thread or Cloth?
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2011, 11:03:49 pm »

There's no difference. The quality of the dye job is kept when the thread is woven to cloth, so no value is created or lost by dyeing thread relative to dyeing cloth. The option is mostly useful if you happen to have more of one than the other, or perhaps so that suturers don't use your theoretically-valuable dyed thread for stitches.

I know of no way to use cloth only of a certain color in a stockpile, except perhaps by use of burrows to limit your dyers to only have access to one color of dye so that only cloth of a certain color is ever available.
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Re: Dye Thread or Cloth?
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2011, 10:44:38 am »

There's no difference. The quality of the dye job is kept when the thread is woven to cloth, so no value is created or lost by dyeing thread relative to dyeing cloth. The option is mostly useful if you happen to have more of one than the other, or perhaps so that suturers don't use your theoretically-valuable dyed thread for stitches.

I know of no way to use cloth only of a certain color in a stockpile, except perhaps by use of burrows to limit your dyers to only have access to one color of dye so that only cloth of a certain color is ever available.
I guess that's a way but that would require a ridiculous amount of micromanagement. And all it would take to mess it up is just one dwarf bringing an undyed or a different color piece of cloth to that stockpile area to completely mess it up.

I guess the best way to do make sure all dwarves are wearing the color I want is:

1. Dump all produced clothes and dyes (except for the specific color I want) into magma
2. Produce a large amount of cloth make sure it doesn't get woven into clothes, bags, ropes etc.
3. Assign it all to a single stockpile and force your dyer to work there in a burrow until he falls unconscious.
4. Wove clothes out of what's left when he gives out the message "No undyed cloth available".

That seems to be the only way as far as I see.
On the bright side you can force military to wear that one specific color you want... Too bad you can't dye steel breastplates :p.
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Re: Dye Thread or Cloth?
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2011, 11:26:35 am »

you can choose the military uniform clothes color.
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Re: Dye Thread or Cloth?
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2011, 12:46:27 pm »

As far as *wearing* the color you want goes, the only way to get dwarves to wear clothes is to assign them to a(n off-duty) military squad, with "replace clothing" (which you have to set) and "off duty = uniformed" (which is already the default).

So, as far as getting your dwarves to wear the color you want, just make a bunch of clothing, make a clothing uniform that specifies what to wear in what colors, and assign everyone to squads.

In a sense, it doesn't matter that much whether you can streamline your clothing production process to only use the dyed cloth of the appropriate color, the stuff that doesn't match the uniform will sit in your finished goods stockpiles and can be sold to the caravans, or dumped and atom smashed, depending on how much immigration/siege activity you're looking for.
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Re: Dye Thread or Cloth?
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2011, 06:05:24 am »

I think I found the main reason for why you can dye thread and cloth separately. I tested around with it and I found out that you can first dye thread into one color (say red) and than dye the cloth that has been made out of it into a different one (say blue). This way you have multicolored single piece of clothing.
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