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oksir

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At peace with the goblins and kobolds
« on: November 06, 2006, 01:31:00 pm »

Based on this thread.

I also have an old fortress that keeps gettting goblin/kobold thiefs, but never a siege. If I understand the civilisation screen correctly, I'm at peace with them, even though I kill every single thief. I guess that's why they never siege.

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Re: At peace with the goblins and kobolds
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2006, 01:49:00 pm »

I'm moving to the Secretive Great Kingdom of Snuggling.
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Re: At peace with the goblins and kobolds
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2006, 02:12:00 pm »

I never used to get sieges either, but then a friend of mine observed that he never seemed to get them unless he captured a kobold/goblin and kept it prisoner.

Apparently that pisses them off more than killing them, and while it's probably not quite 'scientific', I have to say that I've observed much the same thing.

(Apparently untrue: On a related note, it also seems that if you keep an INVADER invader prisoner, you won't ever get another invasion until he's killed. Again, not scientific, just observations.)

[ November 06, 2006: Message edited by: qalnor ]

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Re: At peace with the goblins and kobolds
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2006, 03:42:00 pm »

I've definately gotten invasions while I had an "invader" captive.   I caught the "leader" (he was a unique type of goblin, compared to the others, so I deemed him the leader) of one invasion, and had another invasion the next season, and then another invasion the season after that.
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Re: At peace with the goblins and kobolds
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2006, 04:19:00 pm »

Hm ok, well that bit is wrong, then.
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Draxxalon

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Re: At peace with the goblins and kobolds
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2006, 07:36:00 pm »

My coworker here that plays DF also has a lack of invasions, and I got him to check his civ page, and he's got the same thing - they're at peace with him.

Anyone else who isn't getting seiged might want to check the civs page...

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Re: At peace with the goblins and kobolds
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2006, 09:26:00 pm »

The peace state just indicates that they haven't attacked that civ yet...  goblins and kobolds aren't very friendly.  Whether the sieges update the state after they resolve is another matter.
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oksir

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Re: At peace with the goblins and kobolds
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2006, 05:01:00 am »

All right, then for some reason it's much harder to get sieged in this version than it was before. I've had goblin thiefs for ~10 years now, while in earlier versions they would always siege about 3-5 years into the game if I recall correctly.
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Re: At peace with the goblins and kobolds
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2006, 12:57:00 pm »

Im having similar issues. I am in year 11-12, world was generated release before stockpiles. This is the first fort of that world. Playing v22f currently. I have regular golbin and kobold thieves but no sieges as of yet. Ive both executed priosoners immediately and held prisoners for a season or two. No sieges whatsoever. No tree complaints from the elves either (*no baron yet).

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Re: At peace with the goblins and kobolds
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2006, 03:26:00 am »

It could have something to do with them not having beak dogs -- if they couldn't find proper mounts it cancels the sieges.  I'll have to look into it.
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Re: At peace with the goblins and kobolds
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2006, 04:16:00 am »

This is going to suck if they can't siege, because I just started a huge new game and spent hours and hours building new defenses for a siege. I love sieges. And i don't want to have to re-gen this world......
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