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[SCO]

I mean, the beatings is how automatons lose wisdom, and liberals have a chance to be tortured in C+ mode in prisons so...

[SCO]

As a matter a fact, here is a post in another forum i did with a few ideas:

Wish there was more to do, assassinations of the political structure - fucking supreme judges especially, framing the CCS (both), sleeper politicians so you could influence the proposed legislation, sleeper attorney general so you could persecute the CCS, sleeper police that could "enlighten" arrested CCS - maybe even use this as a sneaky way to drop wisdom for your liberals if the sleeper isn't the leader of the tortured - sacrifices for the cause etc, dropping false evidence at sites (the sites especially are extremely poor, there are very few things you can do there - a high point is infiltrating the gentlemens club with a sleeper allows you to enter if the sleeper is on bouncer duty, but this is only one example of a lot of likely uses for sleepers in sites) etc.

Resuming: more class specific sleeper things to do.

[Kay12]

Liberals *gain* wisdom when in the prison when some law (torture or death penalty I think) is at C+. It's not just a matter of how they're being abused, but why and by whom.

[Ottofar]

You do realize that wisdom is bad?

Otherwise, you could just send your higher-wisdom guys to jail and have them de-wisdomed. So yeah.

[Svirfneblim]

Lowering wisdom should be impossible or honest to god nearly impossible.
I guess destroying the CCS could have a chance of lowering wisdom by one for every active liberal since it's quite a big thing.

[klingon13524]

Lowering wisdom should be impossible or honest to god nearly impossible.
I guess destroying the CCS could have a chance of lowering wisdom by one for every active liberal since it's quite a big thing.

Maybe have it slowly fade out over time? Maybe there should be a monthly roll that has a small chance to reduce wisdom, with the chance being governed by current wisdom and heart (and juice, perhaps?). A small chance mind you. It wouldn't be realistic for somebody to lose half their wisdom a month after joining the LCS, but it would be realistic if their doubts about Liberalism slowly faded out after years of service.

[Kay12]

As Jon (I think it was him) explained in a thread about wisdom...

You can't unhear it.

Basically, you can't just forget that planned economy is hard to implement efficiently or that animal research saves lives.


There is a way to lower wisdom, by the way. It's a very special case and is the LCS equivalent of lobotomy. That is, have your character convert to Conservatism, kidnap him/her back and beat him well with your magical wellness flagpole. The benefits of this are mainly theoretical.

[Dwarven WMD]

Plus there's the propaganda yelled whenever you beat someone during an interrogation. They all tend to be conservative entities, I believe. I guess the idea is causing some psychological reaction that causes them to register conservatism as the reason for them getting the [stinky] beaten out of them by a guy in a clown suit. I'd guess the enlightenment is some kind of defense mechanism.
Hell if I know, I know very little about psychology.

I imagine that the conservatives do the polar opposite of that and yell propaganda related to liberalism during torture.