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Neonivek

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« Reply #45 on: July 20, 2011, 06:56:47 am »
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Why? We are moving into a massive multicore computing right now

Ignoring rumors of later programming allowing multicore support even with single core programs (which I admit I still don't understand how it works)

In 5 years we likely will more then have a computer fast enough to run Dwarf Fortress quite well. Especially since... well... we already do.
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Re: Caravan arc doubt
« Reply #46 on: July 21, 2011, 06:19:52 am »
LOL,this thread started with seeds,and ended with economical theories  and how it should affect a population consisted
 of dwarfs in a period similar to middle age!

that is what makes dwarf fortress a such wonderful game!

if a game creator says "hey guys the next update will be finished in 2014"
the player will rape this guy,his family and dog.

but here no it's fine.
i think thats so nice,Armok bless you all
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« Reply #47 on: July 21, 2011, 06:43:28 am »
Quote from: Neonivek on July 20, 2011, 06:56:47 am
Ignoring rumors of later programming allowing multicore support even with single core programs (which I admit I still don't understand how it works)
To my knowledge it is not possible. I could be mistaken, but I am quite sure I would heard something about it if someone indeed could pull it off (and that someone would get disguistingly rich). And what "rumours"? This is not some paranormal mumbo jumbo crap. Either code does work or does not. In computer sciences is very little wiggle room for crackpot idiocy, this is why various claims of "infinite compression" and the like are so rare.

Quote from: Neonivek on July 20, 2011, 06:56:47 am
In 5 years we likely will more then have a computer fast enough to run Dwarf Fortress quite well.
No, we will not. In five years we will get, say, 32-core computers (each core 3 GHz), not 15 GHz/core computers. Menaningless for DF.

Quote from: Neonivek on July 20, 2011, 06:56:47 am
Especially since... well... we already do.
No, we don't. Show me fort that will not eventually die of FPS death on current bleeding edge computer. Even 2x2 embark is doomed, it will just take longer. And don't even get me started on freezing/unfreezing large bodies of water...
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Dwarf Fortress - where the primary reason to prevent death of your citizens is that it makes them more annoying then they were in life.

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Re: Caravan arc doubt
« Reply #48 on: July 21, 2011, 09:15:40 am »
Quote from: frodo0800 on July 21, 2011, 06:19:52 am
LOL,this thread started with seeds,and ended with economical theories  ...
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I think my text wall has to take the responsibility of derailing into economical theories a bit. But hey! I mostly choose threads that are related to economics, right? Economics is FUN.

DWARCONOMY FOREVER!
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Currency is not excessive, but a necessity.
The stark assumption:
Individuals trade with each other only through the intermediation of specialist traders called: shops.
Nelson and Winter:
The challenge to an evolutionary formation is this: it must provide an analysis that at least comes close to matching the power of the neoclassical theory to predict and illuminate the macro-economic patterns of growth

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« Reply #49 on: July 21, 2011, 10:28:34 am »
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DWARCONOMY FOREVER


not on the current version :D
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Re: Caravan arc doubt
« Reply #50 on: July 21, 2011, 10:30:01 am »
If people continue to derail this interesting and productive thread on economics and trade with oft-repeated discussions on multithreading...


I WILL END THEM.
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Neonivek

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Re: Caravan arc doubt
« Reply #51 on: July 21, 2011, 11:04:47 am »
Quote from: ImBocaire on July 21, 2011, 10:30:01 am
If people continue to derail this interesting and productive thread on economics and trade with oft-repeated discussions on multithreading...


I WILL END THEM.

Actually you want to know what this thread was about?

"in this upcoming release or the next ones,for example if in adventure mode or fortress mode i trade some silver barb seeds with the humans or those overgrow dwarfs with pointy ears,after some months i abandon my fort or and visit their city with one adventurer there will be a chance of they be actually planting silver barb?"

It was one question. Which was answered. There you go. If anything this thread seems to be about "doubt".
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« Reply #52 on: July 21, 2011, 01:55:41 pm »
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If people continue to derail this interesting and productive thread on economics and trade with oft-repeated discussions on multithreading...


I WILL END THEM
no you won't, derailing a thread shows that the community is creative,pratical, has a lot to discuss and for the sake of digital ink and trees we put everything on only one thread,i support it!
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« Reply #53 on: July 21, 2011, 02:33:21 pm »
If being creative is having for the billionth time the same discussion about multithreading, then yes, I guess we're being very creative.
The discussion about economics was instructive though.
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« Reply #54 on: July 21, 2011, 10:39:19 pm »
 ::) Missing the text wall? I'll come up with something after I done some simulations. I got an idea about an elementary "monetary school" system that I wanna to test. Essentially an adapted system that the agents adapt with different learning speed towards maximize personal gain or profit. Maybe it will work like different races and dwarfs has different monetary ideas about how important economic activities should be. Some with little adaptivity may be pure farmers/productions, and some like very greedy merchants. Hence the market may behave like bargaining market initially, and with learning speed raised, more complex financial aspect will emerge and in favor. (Still working on how basic financial infrastructure it can be in a level of near 500 agents, perhaps I'll try 200)
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Currency is not excessive, but a necessity.
The stark assumption:
Individuals trade with each other only through the intermediation of specialist traders called: shops.
Nelson and Winter:
The challenge to an evolutionary formation is this: it must provide an analysis that at least comes close to matching the power of the neoclassical theory to predict and illuminate the macro-economic patterns of growth

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« Reply #55 on: July 22, 2011, 06:00:58 am »
arghhh...my...head......too.....much.....economics......
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Re: Caravan arc doubt
« Reply #56 on: July 22, 2011, 08:45:24 am »
It hard talk dorfy cuz economy serious y'know.  ::)
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Currency is not excessive, but a necessity.
The stark assumption:
Individuals trade with each other only through the intermediation of specialist traders called: shops.
Nelson and Winter:
The challenge to an evolutionary formation is this: it must provide an analysis that at least comes close to matching the power of the neoclassical theory to predict and illuminate the macro-economic patterns of growth
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