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[Evil the Cat]

If the title wasn't obvious enough, I'm going to be talking about the spoilers. Stop reading now if you don't know about the spoilers and don't want to.

I'm about to start mining the blue metal, as I have a legendary armoursmith ready to go and currently his talents are a little wasted. I know I have four spires and they extend very high (into the caverns tunnels, in two cases), so I can be reasonably sure of skimming a little off the top without triggering any unpleasantness, but sooner or later fun is going to happen, and I want to be reasonably prepared. I've never fought the spoiler people without losing the fort in the process, so I'd appreciate some advice.

My current plan is to devote an entire floor just to being a defensible entrance to the bluemetal mines. The trouble is, I'm not sure what qualifies as defense in this case. I know that..

* ..they can fly, so pits are not going to be much help.
* ..some carry syndromes, so at the very least I need a decontamination pool.
* ..they are building destroyers, so doors are useless.
* ..they don't drown and can swim in water and magma, so no using those.
* ..they come in both organic and inorganic varieties, so weapon variety is good

Beyond that I'm stuck. Will traps work, what about raised bridges? Would ballistae be effective? Any suggestions would be appreciated.

[Darkmere]

They can all be cast into obsidian. They can all be impaled on upright spike traps (though flame ones will melt steel once it kills them, so you'll need several traps).

[Sugata-senpai]

As far as I know, the generally accepted method to killing the HFS is as follows...

1. Drop the ceiling on them as they spawn to greatly reduce their numbers

2. Set up long halls of steel or cotton candy menacing spikes set on a repeater

3. Pray that no clowns get through

4. Pit your military against anything that makes it through and hope for the best

[Evil the Cat]

Thanks.. the raised spikes seem like a good way to go.

Will raised bridges block them off, or do they destroy them? It would be nice to have a shortcut I could seal off so the miners wouldn't have to go through a windy labyrinth of spikes to do their jobs.

[Jake]

Demons have [TRAPAVOID], so they're out. Spike traps on repeat are one option, but they also have [BUILDINGDESTROYER:2] and even a handful of them loose in the fortress would be disastrous, so your timing would have to be extremely good.
What I suggest is a long and fairly narrow corridor (maybe three tiles wide) lined with fortifications on both sides, possibly isolated by a pit (spikes optional) to stop the legions of Hell reaching through the murder-holes and grabbing the marksdwarves you have stationed behind them. Use scheduling to keep two squads there at all times, then send every able-bodied adult in the fortress down there with a crossbow in the event of a ruck kicking off; they don't have to be very good, at that sort of range they're bound to hit something. You can stick some ballistae at the very end of the corridor if you like, but they'll be rather unpredictable.

[celem]

Build artifacts surrounded by lever linked repeating spikes.  As building destroyers they will try and break them but as artifacts they will never break.  Infinite spiky fun, i usually use doors but just about anything works

You can also put them in a cage trap if you cover the trap with a spider web. (doesnt work with FB web)  This works on EVERYTHING

A raised bridge cant be 'building_destroyed'  I dont know if any clowns have dragonbreath...thats the only thing that trashes bridges and it doesnt respect magma-safe materials (everything burns)

[thegoatgod_pan]

They will break bridges, too big, i think

[celem]

They are big enough to prevent you atomsmashing them or retracting a bridge they stand on...yeah too big, but they wont break them unless you try, you can still use the bridge as a wall or passageblocker

[ohgoditburns]

They buildingdestroy supports, right?

In a 5-wide corridor, build several supports with a 3x3 set of floors on top. When they destroy the supports, they get crushed.

[AutomataKittay]

They buildingdestroy supports, right?

In a 5-wide corridor, build several supports with a 3x3 set of floors on top. When they destroy the supports, they get crushed.

Nope, building destroyers don't pays attention to supports

[Triaxx2]

Carve open a hole into the bluemetal and pour in water, then magma. It should eventually plug the hole at the bottom. You'll still have FPS trouble, but they won't be able to reach through the Obsidian plug.

[KtosoX]

By the way, would flooding a corridor filled with spikes work as a way to slow down the clowns? It wouldn't stop them, but it would give your traps some extra time to impale them before they get through. And it would get rid of bodies, and all the terrible extracts and stuff right back to where it came from. Like a giant dwarven toilet

[truckman1]

*looks at thread title*

When you close those drawbridges once your miners escape (If they're fast enough) be sure to envision it as one of your dwarves sealing it upright while shouting I AM WELDING THIS DOAH!!!!

Also, once they're all dead, IT'S TIIIIME TO GO SHOOOPING!!!!

I humbly request that from here on out in this thread, "adamantium," or "cotton candy," or "bluemetal," is referred to as "DOSH."

[Tharwen]

*looks at thread title*

When you close those drawbridges once your miners escape (If they're fast enough) be sure to envision it as one of your dwarves sealing it upright while shouting I AM WELDING THIS DOAH!!!!

Also, once they're all dead, IT'S TIIIIME TO GO SHOOOPING!!!!

I humbly request that from here on out in this thread, "adamantium," or "cotton candy," or "bluemetal," is referred to as "DOSH."

*Picks up two battleaxes*

TWO BLOODY GREAT 'ANDFULS