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[AutomataKittay]

letting only farmers farm is a bit risky imo, if he doesn't cope with the workload your food and booze-production is damaged, which led to Fun in one of my earlier forts.

I've never had trouble, as long as the farmers don't have any hauling labors set, and a few dedicated food haulers around. Booze and other food productions are handled by different workers in my forts, farmers are for farming and plant gathering.

[Mushroo]

letting only farmers farm is a bit risky imo, if he doesn't cope with the workload your food and booze-production is damaged, which led to Fun in one of my earlier forts.

Meh, I have 3,355 prepared meals and 622 drink for population 22, I should be okay for a while. When I start running low on food again, I'll just butcher one of the elephants on my farm...

[Number4]

It's probably possible but don't be unprepared. I like the redundancy and farmer skill is nice, but there's no quality in growth products, only stack size so I can live with the slight expierience hit.

[Mushroo]

YAY! My grower is legendary now. Next spring I will begin growing huge stacks of sweet pods and quarry bushes.

I am frankly not sure "only farmers harvest" is worth it. Food production is way down and it's not like my planter was idling before... it is however DEFINITELY worth it concentrating on plump helmets! due to their short grow cycle, they give you more XP than other crops.

[Psieye]

I am frankly not sure "only farmers harvest" is worth it. Food production is way down and it's not like my planter was idling before... it is however DEFINITELY worth it concentrating on plump helmets! due to their short grow cycle, they give you more XP than other crops.

It's easy to make forts that swim in abundance of food (trickier for booze) without ever farming. Given this, "only farmers harvest" means all the important metal industry dwarves don't decide to wander over to the farm plots to pull up one plant before walking all the way back to their real jobs. Yeah sure, you may not get as much food out as if you had every dwarf helping but all your other industries will benefit from the absense of distraction. Some forts have a long walking distance between farms and magma workshops.

[Mushroo]

It's easy to make forts that swim in abundance of food (trickier for booze) without ever farming. Given this, "only farmers harvest" means all the important metal industry dwarves don't decide to wander over to the farm plots to pull up one plant before walking all the way back to their real jobs. Yeah sure, you may not get as much food out as if you had every dwarf helping but all your other industries will benefit from the absense of distraction. Some forts have a long walking distance between farms and magma workshops.

Thanks for explaining it that way... it makes a lot of sense.

I was looking at it from the very limited perspective of leveling up my grower as quickly as possible, forgot to look at the bigger picture.

[AutomataKittay]

Well, yeah, I do tend to have quite a vertical sprawl most of the time, with farmers sitting in their rooms in burrow up there near the farm. So that option's pretty helpful for me, never had issue with productivity ( usually producing a bit more than with having everyone run for the food ), as long as farmer's only duty is farming and plant gathering (Rarely done outside of cavern or flooded quarters, which's pretty late-fort for me ).

It does seem to train them up faster when doing it like I do, and admittingly more niche style 

[GreatWyrmGold]

If you remove the exotic petness of them, jabberers are likely your best bet. Whales and whale sharks are the largest non-megabeasts, but live in water and lack [PET] tags. Cave dragons are exotic and rare, but awesome if you can tame a breeding pair. Sea serpents and sea monsters live in the ocean and are exotic or untameable. Ogres and blind cave ogres are sentient, and elephants are too hungry. Jabberers offer over 100 meat each, as well as 30 fat and ~80 misc. organs.

Of non-exotics, water buffalo are your largest easily accessible ones, but they require huge amounts of grass--~320 tiles per animal--so some kind of smaller grazer may be more ideal. Grizzly bears are the largest non-exotic, non-grazing, land-living animal in vanilla DF.

[Mushroo]

My baby elephants are taking FOREVER to grow up!  I almost feel I could have gotten more meat through hunting than through my free-range elephant farm.

[Psieye]

My baby elephants are taking FOREVER to grow up!  I almost feel I could have gotten more meat through hunting than through my free-range elephant farm.

10 years. You really have to edit the raws if you want an efficient elephant farm. I don't know why nobody mentioned this until now.

[Mushroo]

10 years??? Military punching bag time...

[Mushroo]

DF is funny sometimes, I released my baby elephants into the "hall of traps" some died and some got caught in cages. Immediately 10 wild elephants ran in from the edge of the map, now my hunters are having a field day and the babies will spend the next 10 years growing up in their cages!

[Broseph Stalin]

Cave crocodiles, 20-60 eggs at a time and three years to maturity after that butcher all but one of the males and all the weak ones and you get tons and tons of eggs. I've got 2984 "Cave Crocodile Egg Cold Soup" and a pit full of Eugenically honed murder-beasts in the punishment chamber.