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Agent_86

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Re: Why are my markdwarves awful?
« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2011, 03:49:20 am »

What I've found to work is to make a bunch of archery ranges and a separate barracks, and set them to sleep only in their barracks and train only on the archery ranges.  that way they won't do demonstrations, etc, but only do archery practice.

Could you elaborate on this? Does it means that you have assigned them a barracks for sleeping, but removed the Training flag?

For everyone else in this thread, I succesfully employ marksdwarves in my fortress - should you have any question about how they need to be configured, feel free to ask.
Yes, I have five archery ranges, separated by walls, that my marksdwarves regularly practice on, they are all marked with the training tag, but not sleeping(obviously).  On the other side of the room, I have a row of beds, designated as a barracks, marked only for sleep. 

At first it was purely coincidental that I set it up this way, but when I noticed that all my marksdwarves had experience in marksdwarfship and nothing else, I turned on training on the beds that were previously marked "sleep only".  When I did this, many of the marksdwarves started doing demonstrations, sparring, etc.  Removing training on the beds again had them only training on the archery targets.
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Re: Why are my markdwarves awful?
« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2011, 03:58:07 am »

Interesting, I will try that as well.

On a side note, the only way you define a barracks is through the beds? As in, you expand the room associated to each bed to the full size of your barracks?

I also usually designate the archer targets and the beds as barracks, but I leave the standard size for them (except stretching the archery targets in the designated direction); then I create a barracks from another object, e.g. an Armor Stand, that covers the whole room, and then I activate the (T)raining flag only on that item - I live the (Z)sleep flag only on the beds.
I believe this ie easier to manage.
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Re: Why are my markdwarves awful?
« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2011, 04:24:26 am »

Well, on one side of the room I have the archery targets, they take up half the room, and the row of beds take up the other half.  I'm not sure if that has anything to do with it, but I just selected the center bed and made the entire half of the room a barracks.
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Noir

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Re: Why are my markdwarves awful?
« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2011, 04:25:51 am »

Just one bed? Do dwarves sleep also on the others, just because that one bed cover the others? I usually make a barracks from all the bed. Is this wasted time?
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Re: Why are my markdwarves awful?
« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2011, 04:29:59 am »

Yeah, as long as you designate the room to cover all the beds, they'll use all of them.  No need to make a room for each one.
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Re: Why are my markdwarves awful?
« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2011, 04:34:38 am »

Just make a rectangular room, place a few archery targets in one end and beds/armor/weapon/chests in the other, make a room using one of these, set it to "Barracks" assign a squad to it press Z, T, Q for sleep, training and equipment.
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Re: Why are my markdwarves awful?
« Reply #21 on: June 06, 2011, 04:50:33 am »

Cool, thanks.
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Re: Why are my markdwarves awful?
« Reply #22 on: June 06, 2011, 10:33:29 am »

ACTIVE training schedule means that if a month on the yearly schedule has train order, they will give demonstrations, spar,watch demonstrations. If they are all rookies, this will mess you up. If  on the otherhand, have no scheduled order that month, if they have no job to do, will go to target practice, if archers, or practice on melee weapons, if in melee squad. Active schedule means will not wait as long for a job to show up, as they will under Inactive schedule.
Actually I've never seen active marksdwarves spar. Certainly they'll waste a lot of time on demonstrations - they may do an archery or marksdwarf demonstration but if anyone knows some useless melee skill then they'll spend time learning that most of the time.

Anyway yes, training marksdwarves is best done on live targets. Inactive archery training if you can't provide those live targets.
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