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Re: Mainstream Conspiracy Theories
« Reply #45 on: May 03, 2011, 02:35:45 pm »

Maybe you should take a chemistry class, because that's about as sane as saying "I don't believe in internal combustion".  The chemical processes involved in anthropogenic climate change are extremely well-documented and well-known because they are simple science, regardless of what they do to the weather.

I am once again reminded of the fool I once suffered (not gladly, mind you) who claimed "I don't believe in math".  The only explanation given wasn't an explanation at all, but instead declaring it was no different than a disbelief in god.
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« Reply #46 on: May 03, 2011, 02:39:56 pm »

well, math is based on axioms which can't be proven. If he refuses those, he can disbelieve maths.

why would he do that, however, is a mystery.

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« Reply #47 on: May 03, 2011, 02:40:28 pm »

Maybe you should take a chemistry class, because that's about as sane as saying "I don't believe in internal combustion".  The chemical processes involved in anthropogenic climate change are extremely well-documented and well-known because they are simple science, regardless of what they do to the weather.

I am once again reminded of the fool I once suffered (not gladly, mind you) who claimed "I don't believe in math".  The only explanation given wasn't an explanation at all, but instead declaring it was no different than a disbelief in god.
I suspect hope he was quoting Calvin and Hobbes.
« Last Edit: May 03, 2011, 02:43:16 pm by Simmura McCrea »
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« Reply #48 on: May 03, 2011, 02:46:22 pm »

If either of those were the case, he should have said so.  I didn't press hard, but I did ask for clarification.  The result was a weak one-line atheism analogy.  Nothing about Calvin & Hobbes or axioms.
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« Reply #49 on: May 20, 2011, 05:40:17 pm »

A new mainstream conspiracy theory is being formed...in France, of all places.

Quote from: The Week
Dominique Strauss-Kahn, jailed in New York on charges that he tried to rape a hotel maid, resigned as managing director of the International Monetary Fund late Wednesday. He still maintains his innocence, however, and the French, it seems, agree. In a French poll, 57 percent of respondents said Strauss-Kahn is the victim of a plot; when the tally is restricted to members of Strauss-Kahn's Socialist Party, the number jumps to 70 percent.
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« Reply #50 on: May 21, 2011, 11:00:09 am »

Slight side note from the type of stuff you have here but ive been told by 2 people with doctorates (and im too lazy to check) that the research into the 'healthy food pyramid' (6 serves cereals/grains, 2 fruit, 2 veg, etc) was funded by a large cereal company and has very little real value. 

  That and anything by David Icke, man is a damn genius, anybody who can write 1000 page books on how the world is run by reptilian aliens and get away with it is OK in my book
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Re: Mainstream Conspiracy Theories
« Reply #51 on: May 21, 2011, 11:11:22 am »

Slight side note from the type of stuff you have here but ive been told by 2 people with doctorates (and im too lazy to check) that the research into the 'healthy food pyramid' (6 serves cereals/grains, 2 fruit, 2 veg, etc) was funded by a large cereal company and has very little real value.

It could be used as a very, very rough guideline (although grains are ridiculously overrepresented), but there's really just too much variation within each category for it to be effective, not to mention serving sizes are pretty much random. And there's no particularly good reason for separating dairy and meat, either, given how vague the rest of the categories are. Better to track calories, protein, and micronutrients (all those vitamins and minerals). Throw in essential fatty acids  if you're feeling particularly health conscious.
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« Reply #52 on: May 21, 2011, 11:14:34 am »

More that (in my country anyway) the thing is plastered all over alot of food packaging and taught as gospel in schools
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« Reply #53 on: May 21, 2011, 11:31:33 am »

A new mainstream conspiracy theory is being formed...in France, of all places.

Quote from: The Week
Dominique Strauss-Kahn, jailed in New York on charges that he tried to rape a hotel maid, resigned as managing director of the International Monetary Fund late Wednesday. He still maintains his innocence, however, and the French, it seems, agree. In a French poll, 57 percent of respondents said Strauss-Kahn is the victim of a plot; when the tally is restricted to members of Strauss-Kahn's Socialist Party, the number jumps to 70 percent.

I can understand this. Strauss-Kahn was looking like a huge contender for the next President of France. If he had done so, he would have been the first left-wing President in France since Mitterand 30 years ago. To think that he would potentially toss all that away because he just had to have some Guinean booty is well...tough to accept for those who look up to the man.

(FWIW, I don't think it was a conspiracy...the guy already had a rep as a womanizer. FWIW, although this probably kills his chances to be President of France, I hear the scandal has made him an instant frontrunner in the Italian elections...)  :P
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Re: Mainstream Conspiracy Theories
« Reply #54 on: May 21, 2011, 12:48:17 pm »

The FDA has a version of the food pyramid.  I'd be very surprised if General Mills (the cereal company) doesn't have their own version, but the food pyramid does have some value.
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« Reply #55 on: May 21, 2011, 04:00:24 pm »

The Food Pyramid the FDA uses now is new. The old one is the one mentioned.
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« Reply #56 on: May 21, 2011, 05:09:20 pm »

A new mainstream conspiracy theory is being formed...in France, of all places.
The French are quite inclined towards conspiracy theories, or so I've heard.  There's a couple of other elements that also push them towards this particular one (like Kahn being shown in handcuffs, which is illegal in France, and some of their attitudes towards political sex scandals).

Not really a news article, but there are some interesting attitudes on display here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/20/dominique-strauss-kahn-sympathy-paris
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« Reply #57 on: May 21, 2011, 05:16:38 pm »

I wish he would have had that extra 10 minutes to get out of the country, so we could see how quickly Interpol puts out an international arrest warrant for him.
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« Reply #58 on: May 21, 2011, 05:20:41 pm »

And he'd be caught just as quickly as Roman Polanski!  Excellent.
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