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[Robsoie]

Edlothiol, the Webtiles developers wants to implement a minimap like in the Tile offline version :

I do plan to implement a minimap, but it will probably take me some time.

https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1563

Hopefully he'll manage to get it to work for the next tourney.

[Vherid]

http://crawl11.dyndns.org/gkills.html

lol paladin had the 3rd highest killing ghost

[Rex_Nex]

I see the average playtime for winning games is like 15-20 hours.

Wut. If it took me 2 hours to get pretty far into lair, and thats the furthest i've been, there is like 10x more content ahead of me? What is this nonsense!

[Vherid]

I see the average playtime for winning games is like 15-20 hours.

Wut. If it took me 2 hours to get pretty far into lair, and thats the furthest i've been, there is like 10x more content ahead of me? What is this nonsense!

Because they take breaks, and come back later in the evening or the next day or say, but it still counts that time.

[Meanmelter]

It takes me an hour to get to the orc mines. Two to get to the lair, guess there is a lot ahead?

[baruk]

I see the average playtime for winning games is like 15-20 hours.

Wut. If it took me 2 hours to get pretty far into lair, and thats the furthest i've been, there is like 10x more content ahead of me? What is this nonsense!

Just add up the levels - you're probably about 12 levels in, and are spending about 10 minutes a level. For an average 3-runer, you're looking at 27+8+5+5+8+5 = 58 levels as a minimum. Throwing in the Hive, Crypt, Orc and Elf brings you to 74. So you have between 45 and 60 levels of dungeon to go, and at your current pace that means between 7 and 10 additional hours of content before you can complete the game.

[Robsoie]

I looked on CAO scoreboards "Fastest Wins (Real Time)" , apparently there is a player that fetched the 3 runes + zot in just a little more than 1 hour
http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/cashybrid/morgue-cashybrid-20110405-012118.txt

I can't understand how it is even possible.

For the time playing, i think it's not much of the content ahead that makes the increase of playing time, but the difficulty.
Up to temple i usually press O to autoexplore, it goes quick, but after temple when getting to Lair, the difficulty really increase, so i moving manually tile by tile, then the difficulty continue to increase, so much that i will make a lot of retreat back to my stash to modify my equipment in accordance to the new threat etc...
And in the end there is a lot of retreating to do so you can heal for the avalanche of high damaging enemies , all of this add a lot more time.

And personnally as i like to setup a big stash with every nice i found, instead of just letting them on the floor, i may lose a lot of additional time.

[Toaster]

Felid zerker would have very little subtlety- no equipment management other than jewelry, sac every corpse you don't eat, and berserk everything that doesn't fall easily to melee.  It'd mostly be a charge through the runes down to Zot.

[Meanmelter]

I looked on CAO scoreboards "Fastest Wins (Real Time)" , apparently there is a player that fetched the 3 runes + zot in just a little more than 1 hour
http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/cashybrid/morgue-cashybrid-20110405-012118.txt

I can't understand how it is even possible.

For the time playing, i think it's not much of the content ahead that makes the increase of playing time, but the difficulty.
Up to temple i usually press O to autoexplore, it goes quick, but after temple when getting to Lair, the difficulty really increase, so i moving manually tile by tile, then the difficulty continue to increase, so much that i will make a lot of retreat back to my stash to modify my equipment in accordance to the new threat etc...
And in the end there is a lot of retreating to do so you can heal for the avalanche of high damaging enemies , all of this add a lot more time.

And personnally as i like to setup a big stash with every nice i found, instead of just letting them on the floor, i may lose a lot of additional time.

He pretty much Berserk rushed his entire way down.

[Robsoie]

I don't think he only berzerk rushed his way, because the amount of turns it took for him to get the victory is 91333 turns
In comparison to the guy that is in 2nd position in this quickest victory in real time
http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/78291/morgue-78291-20100828-172732.txt
that did it in 16625 turns.

[drkpaladin]

Yeah, I didn't think felid zerker was doable, but I was in the middle of playing one when the tourney ended, and was chugging along nicely.  I reached Zot with my Troll Chaos Knight for the first time after the tourney I managed to scroll-learn spellcasting and was a respectable necromancer (Fell asleep while mashing the button in slime pits while delving for loot and died, watch out for that ghost! nearly 230 HP, shield in the 40's, and insane resistances to everything, great mutation set), and I'm well on my way with my Troll Necromancer now, (Worshipping Xom still)   If I had dropped that ghost early on, I would have 1st place on ghost kills.

Here's his Morgue
http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/0.8/DrkPaladin/morgue-DrkPaladin-20110531-114136.txt

I was banished to the abyss for a long time, and it was a super entertaining game.  About 8 spectators were watching my hijinks in the abyss Xom thought it was hilarious to teleport you away from the abyss exit, and xom saved my life as many times as he screwed me over.  People were lolling at me alternating between summoning canines and small animals against demons to butchering with animate skeleton while blocking hits to fend off starvation. every potion was drunk, and every scroll used.  Xom mutated me and tormented me constantly, keeping my health at half.  I walked in with the randomly shout mutation, attracting every monster for miles, and left an entirely different animal with the abyssal rune in hand.  Since I was banished deep in elf halls, I was worried I would be surrounded upon escape, but managed to walk away.


Also notable is that Xom randomly drained my exp so much that I went between 19 and 20 about three times

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.8.0-178-g5053f60 character file.

379039 DrkPaladin the Brawler (level 22, -16/216 (233) HPs)
             Began as a Troll Chaos Knight on May 30, 2011.
             Was a Favourite Plaything of Xom.
             Demolished by an azure jelly (44 damage)
             ... on Level 3 of the Pits of Slime on May 31, 2011.
             The game lasted 16:21:24 (130374 turns).

DrkPaladin the Brawler (Troll Chaos Knight)       Turns: 130374, Time: 16:21:24

HP -16/216 (233) AC 15     Str 27      Exp: 22/735279 (0), need: 5720
MP  28/28        EV 13     Int 12      God: Xom
Gold 9928        SH 40     Dex  8      Spells: 14 memorised,  0 levels left

Res.Fire  : + . .   See Invis. : +      - Unarmed
Res.Cold  : x . .   Warding    : . .  O - +4 robe of Night {+Inv MR SInv Stlth++}
Life Prot.: + . .   Conserve   : .    S - +2 large shield of Sloth {Hunger +Rage +In
Res.Acid. : + . .   Res.Corr.  : +    T - +1 wizard hat of Zin's Hope {+Lev rPois In
Res.Poison: +       Clarity    : +    I - -1 cloak {MR}
Res.Elec. : +       Spirit.Shd : .    (gloves unavailable)
Sust.Abil.: . .     Stasis     : .    (boots unavailable)
Res.Mut.  : .       Ctrl.Telep.: .    B - amulet of resist corrosion {god gift}
Res.Rott. : .       Levitation : .    K - ring of the Many Suns {god gift, Fire rEle
Gourmand  : +       Ctrl.Flight: .    R - ring "Puleof" {rN+ SInv}

@: about to teleport, exhausted, slowed, slow, extremely resistant to hostile
enchantments, stealthy
A: unfitting armour, claws 3, blink 1, breathe flames 1, clarity, deformed body
1, speed 1, fast metabolism 3, gourmand, mutation resistance 2, sense
surroundings 2, regeneration 2, +10% hp, saprovore 2, tough skin 2, AC +7, EV
-1, Int +1, Dex +1
a: Blink, Renounce Religion, Breathe Fire, Evoke Berserk Rage, Evoke
Invisibility, Evoke Levitation


You were on level 3 of the Pits of Slime.
You worshipped Xom.
You were a beloved toy of Xom.
You were not hungry.

You visited 13 branches of the dungeon, and saw 72 of its levels.
You visited the Abyss 2 times.
You visited 1 portal chamber: ice cave.

You collected 13178 gold pieces.
You spent 3270 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Armour
 a - the +3 crown of Dyrovepreva {Hunger rElec Int+2 SInv}
   (You found it on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   
   It affects your intelligence (+2).
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It enhances your eyesight.
   It speeds your metabolism.
 I - a -1 cloak of magic resistance (worn)
 O - the +4 robe of Night (worn) {+Inv MR SInv Stlth++}
   (You found it on level 2 of the Swamp)   
   
   
   It increases your resistance to enchantments.
   It enhances your eyesight.
   It lets you turn invisible.
   It makes you much more stealthy.
   
   According to legend, this robe was the gift of Ratri the Goddess of the
   Night to one of her followers.
 S - the +2 large shield of Sloth (worn) {Hunger +Rage +Inv Dex-2 Acc+3 Dam+4 SInv}
   (You acquired it on level 24 of the Dungeon)   
   
   
   It affects your dexterity (-2).
   It affects your accuracy (+3).
   It affects your damage-dealing abilities (+4).
   It enhances your eyesight.
   It lets you turn invisible.
   It lets you go berserk.
   It speeds your metabolism.
 T - the +1 wizard hat of Zin's Hope (worn) {+Lev rPois Int-1}
   (You acquired it on level 3 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   
   It affects your intelligence (-1).
   It protects you from poison.
   It lets you levitate.
Magical devices
 e - a wand of digging (0)
 f - a wand of digging (2)
 h - a wand of teleportation (1)
 j - a wand of digging (6)
 p - a wand of fire (5)
 w - a wand of cold (6)
 M - a wand of cold (7)
 P - a wand of teleportation (3)
 U - a wand of digging (2)
 X - a wand of healing (0) {god gift}
Comestibles
 l - 9 meat rations
Scrolls
 b - a scroll of teleportation {god gift}
 s - a scroll of enchant weapon I {god gift}
 G - 3 scrolls of remove curse
 H - a scroll of detect curse
Jewellery
 c - an uncursed amulet of guardian spirit
 g - the amulet of Cazxyul {Ward rPois rF- rC+ MR Str-3}
   (You found it in the Abyss)   
   
   [amulet of warding]
   
   It affects your strength (-3).
   It makes you vulnerable to fire.
   It protects you from cold.
   It protects you from poison.
   It increases your resistance to enchantments.
 i - an uncursed ring of ice
 k - an uncursed amulet of stasis
 n - an uncursed ring of protection from cold
 q - the ring "Skeumoj" {*TELE Str-3 Dex+3}
   (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults)   
   
   [ring of teleportation]
   
   It affects your strength (-3).
   It affects your dexterity (+3).
 t - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
 u - the amulet of the Four Winds {Clar rN+ MR}
   (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults)   
   
   [amulet of clarity]
   
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It increases your resistance to enchantments.
 z - the ring of Sefaihuh {Str+3 Dex+3 SInv}
   (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults)   
   
   [ring of see invisible]
   
   It affects your strength (+3).
   It affects your dexterity (+3).
 B - an amulet of resist corrosion (around neck) {god gift}
 D - an uncursed ring of teleportation
 K - the ring of the Many Suns (right hand) {god gift, Fire rElec Int-2 Acc-1 SInv}
   (Xom gifted it to you on level 19 of the Dungeon)   
   
   [ring of fire]
   
   It affects your intelligence (-2).
   It affects your accuracy (-1).
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It enhances your eyesight.
 R - the ring "Puleof" (left hand) {rN+ SInv}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   [ring of life protection]
   
   It enhances your eyesight.
Potions
 o - a potion of levitation
 r - 2 potions of restore abilities
 x - 2 potions of agility
 E - a potion of brilliance
 L - a potion of porridge
 Q - a potion of might
Miscellaneous
 d - a decaying rune of Zot
 m - an abyssal rune of Zot
 y - a silver rune of Zot


 You had 0 experience left.

   Skills:
 + Level 15 Fighting
 + Level 5 Throwing
 + Level 3 Armour
 + Level 14 Dodging
 - Level 3 Stealth
 + Level 4 Stabbing
 + Level 15 Shields
 - Level 1 Traps & Doors
 + Level 17 Unarmed Combat
 + Level 6 Spellcasting
 + Level 8 Summonings
 + Level 14 Necromancy
 + Level 3 Translocations
 + Level 5 Evocations


You couldn't memorise any spells.
You knew the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Success   Level  Hunger
a - Animate Skeleton      Necr           N/A          Excellent   1    None
b - Twisted Resurrection  Necr           ######....   Excellent   5    Honeycomb
c - Call Imp              Summ           ####......   Excellent   2    Strawberry
d - Apportation           Tloc           ###.......   Great       1    None
e - Levitation            Air/Chrm       #.........   Good        2    Strawberry
f - Confusing Touch       Hex            #.........   Very Good   1    None
g - Animate Dead          Necr           N/A          Excellent   4    Honeycomb
h - Recall                Tloc/Summ      N/A          Great       3    Choko
i - Call Canine Familiar  Summ           ####......   Excellent   3    Choko
j - Corpse Rot            Necr           N/A          Excellent   2    Strawberry
k - Swiftness             Air/Chrm       #.........   Good        2    Strawberry
l - Repel Missiles        Air/Chrm       #.........   Good        2    Strawberry
m - Sublimation of Blood  Necr           ######....   Excellent   2    Strawberry
n - Conjure Flame         Fire/Conj      #........    Poor        3    Choko


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (27/27)            Temple (1/1) D:4             Orc (4/4) D:7
    Elf (5/5) Orc:3          Lair (8/8) D:10          Swamp (5/5) Lair:4
 Shoals (5/5) Lair:6        Slime (4/6) Lair:7         Hive (2/2) D:15
  Vault (8/8) D:17          Blade (1/1) Vault:6       Crypt (1/5) Vault:2
    Zot (1/5) D:27       

[ggeezz]

I looked on CAO scoreboards "Fastest Wins (Real Time)" , apparently there is a player that fetched the 3 runes + zot in just a little more than 1 hour
http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/cashybrid/morgue-cashybrid-20110405-012118.txt

I can't understand how it is even possible.

For the time playing, i think it's not much of the content ahead that makes the increase of playing time, but the difficulty.
Up to temple i usually press O to autoexplore, it goes quick, but after temple when getting to Lair, the difficulty really increase, so i moving manually tile by tile, then the difficulty continue to increase, so much that i will make a lot of retreat back to my stash to modify my equipment in accordance to the new threat etc...
And in the end there is a lot of retreating to do so you can heal for the avalanche of high damaging enemies , all of this add a lot more time.

And personnally as i like to setup a big stash with every nice i found, instead of just letting them on the floor, i may lose a lot of additional time.

He pretty much Berserk rushed his entire way down.

I watched one of elliptic's SpEn runs one time (0.7).  He dove straight down, retreating from anything that wasn't easily stabbable.  He had no stash despite his low strength and didn't even waste time going into the temple for a god.  He was looking for a few specific things: control teleport, spell book with apportation, repel missiles. (maybe abjuration and a few others I can't remember), resistance and brilliance potions, a ring of resist fire, amulet of resist mutation.

For the places he needed to go he used control teleport.  In the V8 he cast repel missiles and haste, used a scroll of blinking to get away from the guards, read magic mapping, the control teleported into each of the vaults checking only the things that might be useful.  On Zot 5 he read magic mapping, quaffed his potions, randomly teleported till he got close the orb, apported it, picked it up control teleported out.

Oh, in the beginning he turned off everyone one of his skills.  He didn't train anything until he got apportation and then he trained translocations.

What impressed me so much was that he knew EXACTLY what he needed/wanted and he didn't bother with anything else.  And he did all of this at a lightning pace.

I learned a lot of techniques from watching him, but never had the balls to try any of them.

[Robsoie]

There's some stats about the amount of player and server usages of the tournament :
http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/may-tournament-is-over

roughly 400 players by days, that's impressive.