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Naryar

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How to give your dwarves more badass epithets.
« on: May 06, 2011, 07:02:54 pm »
OK, nearly every time a legendary soldier of mine gains a surname, it is mostly nonsense and gibberish.

I have however seen that most megabeasts, when they gain a surname, the surname is directly linked to their spheres. Dragons are a well known example.

I was wondering if anyone attempted to give dwarves sphere tokens so they can get more fitting surnames when they kill enough sentients, not complete nonsense ?
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Re: How to give your dwarves more badass epithets.
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2011, 07:04:53 pm »
Think you could test this by adding it into the raws then generating a world and using legends viewer.

I'll try it out.

Wonder if there is a beard sphere.
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Re: How to give your dwarves more badass epithets.
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2011, 07:10:08 pm »
Quote from: kragnoth on May 06, 2011, 07:04:53 pm
Think you could test this by adding it into the raws then generating a world and using legends viewer.

Oh, good idea here.
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Re: How to give your dwarves more badass epithets.
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2011, 07:13:14 pm »
Well...

the sphere of wealth gave me some inconclusive results:

Tholtig Chamberthrew the Hero of Perfecting - 13 kills
Olin Attictongs the pride-blaze of esteeming - 9 kills
kivish ragprides the free grips - 6 kills

Everyone else doesn't have a title.


oops hold on, I think I accidently added extra spheres, like volcanoes and wealth and war.

edit: will post results of volcanoes only.

Yeah better results on this one:

Zaneg Dimpleworked the Warm Glow - 27 kills
Kivish Tattoostaff the Spark of Fires - 12
Momuz Yawnrough the Warm Flame - 10
Iton Halllull the Warm Heat - 10
Minkot Arrowfountains the Flickering fires - 9
Bomrek Cloistersevere the Torch of Heating - 8
Lokum Goodchannels the Sweltering Fires - 6
Meng Earthencloister the Glow of Warmth - 5

I love those names :D

So yes, if you want good titles, add sphere's like volcanoes and greed :D

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I find it amazing that a dwarf that can strike down a Bronze Colossus single handed, gets killed by a minotaur.
Every... Single...Time

« Last Edit: May 06, 2011, 07:28:07 pm by kragnoth »
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Re: How to give your dwarves more badass epithets.
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2011, 07:28:18 pm »
Do you add these directly to the dwarf creature?  This is fantastic!
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kragnoth

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Re: How to give your dwarves more badass epithets.
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2011, 07:34:57 pm »
right in creature_standard.txt for vanilla

Look at the dragon one for example

[SPHERE:VOLCANOES]
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Re: How to give your dwarves more badass epithets.
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2011, 08:02:16 pm »
Do we know of a list of spheres AND their associated words?  I know the sphere list, but is there a language file somewhere that tacks the words to the spheres?  I'm pretty sure this is hardcoded...
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Re: How to give your dwarves more badass epithets.
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2011, 08:04:30 pm »
Quote from: Girlinhat on May 06, 2011, 08:02:16 pm
Do we know of a list of spheres AND their associated words?  I know the sphere list, but is there a language file somewhere that tacks the words to the spheres?  I'm pretty sure this is hardcoded...
I think it's hardcoded. Not 100% sure.
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Re: How to give your dwarves more badass epithets.
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2011, 08:08:52 pm »
There is a stringdump of all the sphere's on magmawiki as well as the 40d dump that had children and sibling sphere's.

I.E. I think volcano shares words from the fire/earth/etc. sphere's.  If you look in the language_sym file, you can kind of get an idea of what words are possible by charting between family sphere's and the related words.

Would take a bit of text manipulation to output a file that linked every word with every sphere, but I'm sure someone would be able to do it.

edit: but I don't think you can manipulate the words that are associated themselves by manipulating the sym file, as I just added some rather... interesting words to the volcano subset in the language_sym, and did not see any changes after world-gen.

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« Last Edit: May 06, 2011, 08:15:16 pm by kragnoth »
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Re: How to give your dwarves more badass epithets.
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2011, 03:32:14 am »
http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/Sphere

So SPHERE changes the epithets when they gain one, and SELECY_SYMBOL:REMAINING is for the second names.
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Re: How to give your dwarves more badass epithets.
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2011, 07:21:33 am »
This... is... amazing...

I just need to make sure I don't accidentally exclude the name "Urist."  I like having lots of Urists running around.
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Re: How to give your dwarves more badass epithets.
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2011, 08:52:22 am »
Pretty sure you'll include Urist (Dagger IIRC)
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