Bay 12 Games Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

Author Topic: How much wealth before the Goblins attack?  (Read 2638 times)

darkflagrance

  • Bay Watcher
  • Carry on, carry on
    • View Profile
How much wealth before the Goblins attack?
« on: April 27, 2011, 11:46:01 am »

In my current fort, I'm trying to build up a ton of steel weapons and armor before fighting the goblins, so I would to know how much fortress wealth I can accumulate (in the form of masterwork breastplates and so on) before I trigger goblin attacks.
Logged
...as if nothing really matters...
   
The Legend of Tholtig Cryptbrain: 8000 dead elves and a cyclops

Tired of going decades without goblin sieges? Try The Fortress Defense Mod

greycat

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: How much wealth before the Goblins attack?
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2011, 12:42:35 pm »

I don't know if anyone has any hard numbers on this.  It would be extremely time-consuming to test this -- set up a fort, have it build wealth VERY slowly over time, and write down the amount of wealth when the first goblin is seen.  Then repeat... about, oh, 500 times....  Take the minimum wealth observed and round it to some likely trigger value.

Practically speaking, I believe a masterpiece steel breastplate is worth something like 12000 Urist, isn't it?  A couple of those should bring the goblins, I would think.
Logged
Hell, if nobody's suffocated because of it, it hardly counts as a bug! -- StLeibowitz

wuphonsreach

  • Bay Watcher
    • View Profile
Re: How much wealth before the Goblins attack?
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2011, 01:43:44 pm »

http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/Ambush
- "ambushes are not related to the number of dwarves in your fortress, and so can be triggered by relatively small populations"

http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/Siege
- Pretty sure you don't get sieged before 80 dwarves.  But weapon / cage traps (or just raising a drawbridge) will keep them out if you're not ready.  And a field of a few dozen iron/steel weapon traps can take care of entire sieges.

http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/Titan
- These show up at a certain money amount.
- Controlled when you generate your world, I don't remember what the default is, but I use [TITAN_ATTACK_TRIGGER:80:0:3000000] (80 dwarves, exported wealth not counted, 3 million fortress wealth), so once I hit 80 dwarves *or* 3 million fortress wealth, I might expect a titan.  I bumped those up a bit because I generate worlds that are small, but have half a dozen titans.

I'm sure there is a similar tag for the sieges and maybe ambushes, but don't know where it is at the moment.
Logged