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Do you think non-metal weapons other than the few wooden training weapons are a good idea?

Yes, it would allow me to make an effective military earlier.
Yes, it would allow and encourage a greater variety of weapons to be used in a fort.
No, but I'd like to see a greater variety in training weapons.
No, things are fine as they are.

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IT 000

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Re: More non-metal weapons
« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2011, 05:36:20 pm »

Since when did we have sharp stabby bits on a club? We don't even have sharp stabby bits on War Hammers. If Toady wanted training hammers/maces they would be in.

There's a quote somewhere, but I don't have it right off hand.
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zombat

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Re: More non-metal weapons
« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2011, 05:48:40 pm »

A training club would be hollowed and wrapped in cloth or leather to cushion what remained of the impact
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IT 000

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Re: More non-metal weapons
« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2011, 06:39:08 pm »

But what's the point of having training weapons in the first place? They serve no use other then to be exploited. I trained in Martial Arts for a number of years during my childhood. When you spar you don't hit the person as hard as you can, you lightly tap them. Training weapons had a use back in 40d when the Legendary Warrior of my fort had more kills in the sparring room then he did on the field. But now? I haven't seen any wounds as a result from sparing.
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Re: More non-metal weapons
« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2011, 09:53:39 pm »

I agree with IT.

A wooden club/hammer should also be a training weapon. All wooden tools/weapons should be training weapons as well. It would be pointless to add in both types when they are exactly the same, just with different names.
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Re: More non-metal weapons
« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2011, 10:54:40 am »

Zombat describes it much better than I have. Basically, weapons can only be of a single material at the moment but a training weapon could definitely be much less lethal than a fighting weapon even when made of the same material. Being hollow is easy to apply, and the cloth or leather wrapping can be simulated by increasing the contact area a bit.

And frankly, the training rooms aren't that much of an exploit. The training weapons have only been made a bit -too- ridiculously nonlethal. With well-designed training weapons, they'd be sufficiently dangerous to be realistic, while still not nearly as much of a murderhall as a room full of sharpened spears.
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