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Vhorthex

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No Gypsum, any way to add some?
« on: April 12, 2011, 06:23:38 pm »

Hello there,

So, I don't have any gypsum on my map. And it's sort of putting a plug in my hospital. I tried to find a way to add some, and found that you could edit reactions. I'm playing with the Genesis mod, so I decided to modify the rock grinder, and make it give 1 unit of gypsum for 10 units of stone crushed. But... it appears that save games dont' take into account reactions form the raw files. how sad. Tried to find an editor to add some and neither.

I'd gladly trade some, but I didn't know that after the first agreement you sign with your neighboors that they'll only bring what you asked initially. Or is there a way to renogotiate the tarde agreements? I'd love to put gyspum to the max! lol

In any case, any help is welcomed! :)

Thanks!
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Re: No Gypsum, any way to add some?
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2011, 06:26:48 pm »

I'm playing with the Genesis mod, so I decided to modify the rock grinder, and make it give 1 unit of gypsum for 10 units of stone crushed. But... it appears that save games dont' take into account reactions form the raw files. how sad.

The raws are also written to the save games and you need to change them there to have any effect - but AFAIK adding a reaction would need a new world gen.... just take a brief look at the stickied "when do I need to regen" thread in the modding forum
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Re: No Gypsum, any way to add some?
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2011, 06:38:02 pm »

Couldn't you also ask the caravans for plaster?
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Re: No Gypsum, any way to add some?
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2011, 06:43:43 pm »

@ Shandra - Great stuff! I didn't notice the raw files with the save! All is good!

@Proxn_punkd - haha, Thanks mate. But you didn't read my whole post. :)
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Re: No Gypsum, any way to add some?
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2011, 06:46:15 pm »

I'd gladly trade some, but I didn't know that after the first agreement you sign with your neighboors that they'll only bring what you asked initially. Or is there a way to renogotiate the tarde agreements? I'd love to put gyspum to the max! lol
You make a new trade agreement every year.  Ask them to bring gypum powder next year.
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Re: No Gypsum, any way to add some?
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2011, 07:11:23 pm »

They always bring some whether I ask for it or not, maybe you're not seeing it - both humans and dwarves bring it.
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Re: No Gypsum, any way to add some?
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2011, 09:22:12 pm »

I'd gladly trade some, but I didn't know that after the first agreement you sign with your neighboors that they'll only bring what you asked initially. Or is there a way to renogotiate the tarde agreements? I'd love to put gyspum to the max! lol
You make a new trade agreement every year.  Ask them to bring gypum powder next year.

Strange, it's my 6th year. And I've only "sat down" with the delegate of each race once.
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Re: No Gypsum, any way to add some?
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2011, 09:50:57 pm »

I'd gladly trade some, but I didn't know that after the first agreement you sign with your neighboors that they'll only bring what you asked initially. Or is there a way to renogotiate the tarde agreements? I'd love to put gyspum to the max! lol
You make a new trade agreement every year.  Ask them to bring gypum powder next year.

Strange, it's my 6th year. And I've only "sat down" with the delegate of each race once.

Maybe you're keeping your "leader" of the expedition too busy to meet with the delegate?
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Re: No Gypsum, any way to add some?
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2011, 09:52:20 pm »

With the delegate of each race once.... grmpf - so far I only negotiate with dwarves (though I trade with hippies and tall ones also!)....
and from trade agreements it is always (for my game(s)) that they only bring what was requested.... in variable amount (lack of wagon ?) and only to a certain degree - but unlike to 28.whatsoever.** - the dwarves never brought me (after year 1) anything in addition to that what was requested....
« Last Edit: April 12, 2011, 09:54:59 pm by Shandra »
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Re: No Gypsum, any way to add some?
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2011, 10:30:26 pm »

... Did your civ die out?
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Re: No Gypsum, any way to add some?
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2011, 10:35:56 pm »

Nope... my civ is pretty healthy - why should I get (become visited by) my dwarven diplomat at all if it where otherwise (and my home civ had at least 5+ tiles occupied during embark)? What I was wondering or puzzled about was the remark of
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Strange, it's my 6th year. And I've only "sat down" with the delegate of each race once.
- and so far no delegate beside the dwarven one is happening to me....
« Last Edit: April 12, 2011, 10:39:41 pm by Shandra »
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