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Re: Are my badgers rotting from inside out?
« Reply #30 on: April 12, 2011, 01:09:43 am »

This whole thread reads like a testament to the depravity of Dwarf Fortress, and the despair it can induce. Hilarious.
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Re: Are my badgers rotting from inside out?
« Reply #31 on: April 12, 2011, 01:22:32 am »

You can run the DF clean map hack if you have no problems with cheating.
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Re: Are my badgers rotting from inside out?
« Reply #32 on: April 12, 2011, 02:23:45 am »

I would recommend butchering the badgers.  At least that way they stop walking around.  Take the hit to your military happiness.  Build a 2 tile water tile 'moat' that'll clean your dwarves when they walk into or out of infected areas.  Get a good hospital set up, it sounds like surgery can stop the this particular rot before it hits the nervous system.  I would recommend building a hospital that can double as a washing machine so you can burrow your dwarves in it and wash them off.  Your going to take some losses, but the shallow 'moats' should prevent a spread.  The only way that dwarves will consistantly 'clean' a tile is if its smoothed out.  Trying to control this kind of infection is super tricky, and like the others said, sometimes you get a really bad one that rots the brain and nerves first, and then turns the immobile dwarf into a slowly dying disease filled, oozing sack that infects anyone who walks on him, picks up his socks, or moves him to his bed, or sleeps in his bed afterwards.  I don't think you got that one. though.  I think you got the one that rots the feet first, so surgery might save lives.
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Re: Are my badgers rotting from inside out?
« Reply #33 on: April 12, 2011, 09:35:37 am »

Wait, these infections can still destroy an entire fort?

Ugh, suppose i'm still waiting for the version where you can deal with them without having to write off large amounts of your population.
Pray, sir, what would be the Fun in that?

I name all of my dwarves after my friends. I find it annoying when they all get killed due to some bullshit infection that can't be cured.

Welcome to Dwarf Fortress. The game where your fortress is screwed, no matter what you do.  :P

I've been playing for years sir :P Your fortress is fine if you're careful.
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Re: Are my badgers rotting from inside out?
« Reply #34 on: April 12, 2011, 09:42:42 am »

I had a very similar thing happen once (I think a quote from my thread about it is still in somebody's signature...).

Rotting animals/peoples will cause miasma. Prepare for this. Butcher the infected animals, I don't know if they'll yield viable meat, but if not, that's what the refuse stockpile is for.

Now, the hospital IS equipped to deal with necrotized tissue, I'm fairly sure. When it's on the outer limbs, your doctors will excise it (surgery required). I'm not sure about internal organs, they may do surgery on that, but I can't say for sure. Prepare for a shit-tonne of miasma in your hospital. When this happened in my fort, I couldn't even see the doctors and patients because of the massive clouds of purple smoke. The impromptu miasma vents I dug did not help a lot, so don't bother.

Now, if only the feet are rotting, your dwarves stand a good chance of survival. They may become walking-impaired, but crutches work now, so hurray. If a lot of other stuff is rotting too, chances of survival get slimmer. I had one child in the last incident whose...well, everything that I could see was rotten. He died (ironically, he was the son of the chief medical dwarf...I felt very sad after that).

Hope you've got a fucktonne of suturing thread, doctors, cloth for wrapping the wounds, and nice things around the fortress to inspire happy thoughts, mate!
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Re: Are my badgers rotting from inside out?
« Reply #35 on: April 12, 2011, 09:50:32 am »

I've been playing for years sir :P Your fortress is fine if you're careful.

Where's the fun in -that-?

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Re: Are my badgers rotting from inside out?
« Reply #36 on: April 12, 2011, 04:06:50 pm »

I've been playing for years sir :P Your fortress is fine if you're careful.

Where's the fun in -that-?

 :D

The horrors I regularly inflict upon invading goblins of course.

I mean, have you ever seen a goblin nibbled to death by kittens? No? Well then, you've not had fun :L
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Re: Are my badgers rotting from inside out?
« Reply #37 on: April 12, 2011, 04:37:30 pm »

Wait, these infections can still destroy an entire fort?
According to the bug tracker contaminants are no longer tracked around by feet, but they can spread when a dwarf washes themselves at a well and leaves a puddle of infection next to the well.
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Re: Are my badgers rotting from inside out?
« Reply #38 on: April 12, 2011, 04:55:07 pm »

Yes, they will die. Its due to the Forgotten Beast's blood or ichor causing necrosis, and the badgers' limbs are rotting because they stepped on it. The dwarves that are wearing any foot clothing (socks, shoes, boots: basically any dwarf that isn't a child) will be totally fine.

Only for a while. They stepped on it, so they will take it back to the fort in microscopic amounts on the bottoms of their shoes.

This is only true if you have gone into the init files and explicitly turned on dwarves spreading spatter.

That was set to disabled by default starting some time around .18 due to the many issues with it.

If you have left it as is, then the only way to get the infection should be to go somewhere that the FB has personally left his noxious secretions.
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« Reply #39 on: April 12, 2011, 05:28:59 pm »

If you have left it as is, then the only way to get the infection should be to go somewhere that the FB has personally left his noxious secretions.
... or somewhere a dwarf has cleaned themselves.
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Re: Are my badgers rotting from inside out?
« Reply #40 on: April 12, 2011, 05:29:35 pm »

If you have left it as is, then the only way to get the infection should be to go somewhere that the FB has personally left his noxious secretions.
... or somewhere a dwarf has cleaned themselves.

Ah, yes, that's true.
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Re: Are my badgers rotting from inside out?
« Reply #41 on: April 12, 2011, 07:16:09 pm »

If you have left it as is, then the only way to get the infection should be to go somewhere that the FB has personally left his noxious secretions.
... or somewhere a dwarf has cleaned themselves.
Or somewhere a creature has been rained on, or stepped in water of any depth.
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