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Byakugan01

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World Gen-Where are all the gobbos?
« on: April 03, 2011, 09:51:20 pm »
So I've been genning worlds, and noticed something-I almost NEVER see a SINGLE dark tower when I gen. Are there some params I need to mod to help the gobbos out?
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Re: World Gen-Where are all the gobbos?
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2011, 10:43:25 pm »
More evil tiles/regions, shorter world gen.

I think adjusting savagery helps too, but can't recall if they want "Haunted" or "Terrifying".
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Re: World Gen-Where are all the gobbos?
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2011, 11:31:54 pm »
I'm pretty sure no civilization can live in high savagery (66+) areas. Goblins do need evil but I suspect that they can't handle high savagery evil (Terrifying).

http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/Civilization

If you don't want huge evil areas, just set the high and medium size evil params to 0 and play with the small region evil value.

Edit: Looking at the raws, only things with the SAVAGE token can show up on savage biomes and in that case they're actually limited to savage biomes. Goblins are ANY_LAND, EVIL
« Last Edit: April 03, 2011, 11:43:52 pm by ral »
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Re: World Gen-Where are all the gobbos?
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2011, 12:31:36 am »
Export world details after the gen is done ('p'). Then search the sites and populations file for goblins owning a site that has civilized entities in it. This will make sure if they are there or not.
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Re: World Gen-Where are all the gobbos?
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2011, 02:21:17 am »
On a related topic do you need a goblin civilisation somewhere to get ambushes/sieges? My current .25 fort is reminiscent of the one I did around .14 in that it's well established and upgraded to a county but no sign of goblin interest, just the odd Minotaur and the like. There are no goblins on the civilisation screen but there weren't in a .19 fortress of mine that was overwhelmed swiftly because sieges started every few months after just a couple of years, long before I was capable of handling them. Has the pendulum now been swung the other way so nobody is going to turn up?
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Re: World Gen-Where are all the gobbos?
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2011, 02:36:46 am »
You do need goblin civilization around in order to be attacked by goblins. One specific way to avoid goblins is to embark on a deserted island.

With that said, I'm not sure how closeby they have to be, but they at least have to have a path over land it seems.
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Re: World Gen-Where are all the gobbos?
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2011, 02:58:59 am »
Oh dear, whenever I get a fortress/military in good shape to receive visitors it turns out that nobody is going to invite themselves to the party. Guess I'll have to dig deep before the fun starts, although the local capybaras have scored one kill by startling a hunter causing him to jump into a murky pool for a watery death.
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