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Arnos

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38b Wonuded dwarves die beaucse they want water instead
« on: February 24, 2008, 01:40:00 pm »

Dwarves should get beer if there is no water and they are wounded.  The way things currently work they die of thirst when it is entirely possible for them to have gotten a drink.
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Re: 38b Wonuded dwarves die beaucse they want water instead
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2008, 01:44:00 pm »

Ancient problem, my friend. Maybe it'll be fixed once booze can be stored in something other than barrels, but until then, water is the only thing you can give them, because it can be carried in buckets. As far as I know, booze cannot.
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Re: 38b Wonuded dwarves die beaucse they want water instead
« Reply #2 on: February 29, 2008, 10:27:00 pm »

Minor bump to get this fixed :/
My saltwater-surrounded fortress is doing exceptionally good, but I fear that since anyone who gets injured or jailed (I don't have a sheriff or fortress guards assigned because of this) will simply die of thirst, the place will eventually flop over like a set of dominoes with the proper tantrum - injury symphony.

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Re: 38b Wonuded dwarves die beaucse they want water instead
« Reply #3 on: February 29, 2008, 11:08:00 pm »

suggestion for a temp fix for saltwater:

code:

Level 0
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~~~#       the ocean
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Level 1
___.....<
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___%%...#  pump some water into a series of constructed walls
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___......

Level 2
________>
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________+  Designate a water zone up here.
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_________


I had it work once on a map (by accident), but I haven't had any ocean forts recently.  Also, my aqueduct went through a pond, so that may have done it.

[ February 29, 2008: Message edited by: Draco18s ]

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Re: 38b Wonuded dwarves die beaucse they want water instead
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2008, 05:44:00 pm »

Does anyone realize that alcohol dehydrates? Like, as in makes dwarves lose the water present in their bodies?
Make sense for booze not to work.
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Re: 38b Wonuded dwarves die beaucse they want water instead
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2008, 06:13:00 pm »

I've been wonuded!
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Re: 38b Wonuded dwarves die beaucse they want water instead
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2008, 07:16:00 pm »

I'd lol if a dwarf drank beer with a puncture wound in his digestive tract.

"Mm, beer makes everything better...

Uh, it's starting to burn..  Ouch, ouch ouch ouch!!  Water!"

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Re: 38b Wonuded dwarves die beaucse they want water instead
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2008, 09:22:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Muffles:
<STRONG>Uh, it's starting to burn..  Ouch, ouch ouch ouch!!  Water!"</STRONG>

No real dwarf would ever admit to being so wussishly human...

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Re: 38b Wonuded dwarves die beaucse they want water instead
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2008, 11:23:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Scorpios:
<STRONG>Does anyone realize that alcohol dehydrates? Like, as in makes dwarves lose the water present in their bodies?
Make sense for booze not to work.</STRONG>

Then how do they survive off just booze normally?

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Re: 38b Wonuded dwarves die beaucse they want water instead
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2008, 01:20:00 am »

quote:
Originally posted by Scorpios:
<STRONG>Does anyone realize that alcohol dehydrates? Like, as in makes dwarves lose the water present in their bodies?
Make sense for booze not to work.</STRONG>

dwarfs are powered by fuel cells

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Re: 38b Wonuded dwarves die beaucse they want water instead
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2008, 01:24:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by benoit.hudson:
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Then how do they survive off just booze normally?</STRONG>


Dwarves have a different metabolism from humans; just because the effects of alcohol on the human body cause one to dehydrate, doesn't mean it works the same for dwarves. Remember, liquor contains some water as well!

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Re: 38b Wonuded dwarves die beaucse they want water instead
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2008, 02:27:00 pm »

Usually I make an indoor well, dwarves take water from it without any troubles. To get an indoor well in a map without a stream, simply drain a couple of muddy pools into a rock reservoir (2X2 is enough) and build a well upon it!
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Re: 38b Wonuded dwarves die beaucse they want water instead
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2008, 02:49:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Captain Goatse:
<STRONG>Usually I make an indoor well, dwarves take water from it without any troubles. To get an indoor well in a map without a stream, simply drain a couple of muddy pools into a rock reservoir (2X2 is enough) and build a well upon it!</STRONG>

It runs out.  You'll need at least a 4x4 to supply a fortress full of dwarves with water through winter.

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Re: 38b Wonuded dwarves die beaucse they want water instead
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2008, 07:37:00 pm »

If your near a saltwater area, you probably have an aquifer. If so, you can pull water from that with wells safly (although one of my haulers gave me a terrible scare when he put the bucket down less than five steps from my wounded Wrestler and went to drink some booze).

If you don't have an aquifer, nab some water from the ocean/brook to put into a resovior acessed by wells. Still works.

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