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zerin

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Trouble With Training
« on: March 28, 2011, 07:52:36 pm »
After having embarked in a tropical biome (in x.24), I've filled my stockpiles with all kinds of wonderful caged creatures. I decided to create a breeding population of elephants and establish myself as an unrivaled military replete with war elephants, jaguars, leopards, and tigers. I removed the exotic tag from the raws so I could tame them, but now I'm facing a weird problem. According to the wiki, I should be able to train all of these animals, however, I can only tame the elephants and nothing more. Once tamed, the elephants can't be trained. I have an elephantsplosion that I would love to turn into a goblin-squishing war force, but I can't figure out why this isn't working. As far as I know, the raws are fine. Elephants are lacking the exotic tag and have the trainable tag (I eve removed [GRAZER] so they don't starve to death), but no go. Thoughts?
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Re: Trouble With Training
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2011, 08:37:04 pm »
This is odd, did you edit the raws in the particular world you are using?
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Re: Trouble With Training
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2011, 08:39:02 pm »
How are you trying to train them?
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Naryar

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Re: Trouble With Training
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2011, 08:43:40 pm »
Are they in cages ? They need to be free, roaming and AFAIK not assigned to a pasture or an owner.

I've had elephantsplosions before, back when grazers didn't exist. With the triplet births, you fortress will be SWIMMING in elephant meat.
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zerin

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Re: Trouble With Training
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2011, 08:49:17 pm »
Quote from: Naryar on March 28, 2011, 08:43:40 pm
Are they in cages ? They need to be free, roaming and AFAIK not assigned to a pasture or an owner.

I've had elephantsplosions before, back when grazers didn't exist. With the triplet births, you fortress will be SWIMMING in elephant meat.

A-ha! Yes, I had the elephants assigned to a pasture (although all the tiny elephants have free run of the place). I can now train war elephants. However, I still can't tame the giant jaguar and giant leopard (both indicated in the wiki as being trainable) which are in cages in the stockpile.

And yes, I did edit the raws for the world I was using, and confirmed that all the animals I'm trying to tame/train have the proper tags.
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Sarda

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Re: Trouble With Training
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2011, 08:51:33 pm »
Well then, let them out of the cages. They're tame, right?
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Re: Trouble With Training
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2011, 09:00:42 pm »
Yeah, your dwarves will not train creatures in cages. Let them out first and then order the training of a war animal.
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zerin

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Re: Trouble With Training
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2011, 09:05:35 pm »
Quote from: Naryar on March 28, 2011, 09:00:42 pm
Yeah, your dwarves will not train creatures in cages. Let them out first and then order the training of a war animal.

Nothing stays in cages after being tamed in my fort. The elephants I had moved to pastures while I was mass taming them and now that they're unassigned are being hardened for battle.

However, my problem still remains that creatures that should be tamable are not. I have a small population of leopards and jaguars that, by all accounts, should be tamable, but aren't listed in the kennel menu (following exactly the same conditions as when I tamed the elephants). To prove it wasn't an issue with the raws, I edited the unicorn entry to allow taming and training and now have a unicorn war force, too, but jaguars and leopards just aren't cooperating.
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