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[Xvareon]

I stumbled upon this while reading through random Wikipedia articles, and it's taken a special place in my heart, because it makes so much sense.

The Three Principles

Truth Love Courage

The Eight Virtues

Honesty is respect for the Truth
Compassion is Love for others
Valor is Courage to stand up against risks
Justice is Truth, tempered by Love
Sacrifice is Courage to give oneself in name of Love
Honor is Courage to seek and uphold the Truth
Spirituality is To seek Love, Truth & Courage from ones own self and the world around
Humility - The absence of Truth, Love & Courage is Pride. Pride is the surest measure of goals never attained. Pride goeth before, shame cometh after. This shame leads to awareness of Humility, the root from which all Virtues grow. Humility is to strip oneself of all conceits.

For more information visit this link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtues_of_Ultima

[Ochita]

But... What about when the shadowlords come?!?

[Levi]

But... What about when the shadowlords come?!?

It gives us the excuse to do the opposite.  Woo shadowlords!

[ChairmanPoo]

Spoiler: 8) (click to show/hide)

 

As a sidenote: the hierophant theme (which first plays when you read that scroll in the beggining of the game) kicks ass.

[Sergius]

"All begins with the three principles: Control, Passion and Diligence. From Control springs Direction. From Passion springs Feeling. From Diligence springs Persistence. But these three virtues are no more important than the other five: Control combines with Passion to give Balance. Passion combines with Diligence to yield Achievement. And Diligence joins with Control to provide Precision. The absence of Control, Passion and Diligence is Chaos. Thus the absence of the principles points toward the seventh virtue, Order. The three principles unify to form Singularity. This is the eighth virtue, but it is also the first, because within Singularity can be found all the principles, and thus all the virtues. A circle has no end. It continues forever, with all parts equally important in the success of the whole. Our society is the same. It too continues forever, with all members (and all virtues) equal parts of the unified whole."


Also, don't forget the 5 elements: Fire, Water, Earth, Air, and PIZZA!

• Earth is for solidity and stability.
• Air gives freedom and movement.
• Fire provides power and energy. Lightning is electrical in nature, which puts it in the realm of Fire.
• Water provides fluidity and life. The Element of Water is the most important ingredient in life science.
• Pizza represents the essence of well-roundedness and regaining strength. Pizza is a crucial ingredient in many scientific formulae. There is infinite variation in its effects, depending on whether one starts with Pepperoni, Mushrooms, Artichokes, or Plain Cheese.

[Ochita]

Personally, I would prefer the major and minor arcana.

[Grakelin]

Personally, I would prefer the major and minor arcana.

Do you also read tarot cards? I've been doing it for a few years.

[Ochita]

Personally, I would prefer the major and minor arcana.

Do you also read tarot cards? I've been doing it for a few years.

Not often.

[LeoLeonardoIII]

Look up Aristotle's virtues too for a different way of looking at it. His idea was that virtue is a middle ground between extremes. Such as, you could be extremely gluttonous and eat everything in sight, or be extremely prohibitive and eat almost nothing. Either way is bad. Go for somewhere in the middle.

Of course some varmint will say something like "well what if you practice MODERATION in moderation?" or "what about a moderate amount of racism" which completely misses but you get the idea. It's a common problem with philosophy. They try to take a simple statement and make it cover every possible circumstance. Bah! Look at it more like a Chinese salad bar - take what you want, and leave the rest.

[Grakelin]

Then again, Aristotle was just being a contrarian to all the other popular Greek thought processes, which highly encouraged extreme hedony or extreme conservatism. It makes him seem a lot less intelligent.

As does reading some of his writing.