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Author Topic: Deep / shallow metal when choosing embark location  (Read 12425 times)

Subdane

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Deep / shallow metal when choosing embark location
« on: February 24, 2011, 06:50:06 am »

I am a bit confused about the metal overview when choosing an embark location in version 0.31.19.

I choose a spot with shallow metal, because I thought it meant that the metal would be close to the surface rather than deep down in the earth.

But the only metal I have found so far is Galena (and not a lot of it)

So my question(s) is: How do I find a location with iron veins in sedimentary layers? (Yes I want steel and loads of it :P )
Put in another way, how do I find Hematite, Magnetite and/or Limonite

-Does deep/shallow imply something else than the deepth it is found in?
-Does it got something to do with the color the text is written with?
-Or something else??
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Re: Deep / shallow metal when choosing embark location
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2011, 07:04:23 am »

afaik iron has been outright removed from the game. played 4 fortresses in 3 different worlds, and no civilization has ever had access to iron. neither have i. if you are lucky you will find tin/copper if you have deep/shallow metal. if you are lucky. not to complain, metals were far too common before.
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Re: Deep / shallow metal when choosing embark location
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2011, 07:05:24 am »

1. In v31.19, Toady reworked world generation for the caravan arc, and metals are extremely scarce. This is likely to be fixed in 31.20.- Wiki Quote

Yeah... I guess you will have to go for the Blue stuff.. if you know what i mean
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Re: Deep / shallow metal when choosing embark location
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2011, 07:46:54 am »

If iron still appears in the same places but at a lower rate, then all you have to do is find a biome with shallow flux and shallow metal. You might not get iron-bearing ores every time, but it should help.

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Re: Deep / shallow metal when choosing embark location
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2011, 07:47:32 am »

afaik iron has been outright removed from the game. played 4 fortresses in 3 different worlds, and no civilization has ever had access to iron. neither have i. if you are lucky you will find tin/copper if you have deep/shallow metal. if you are lucky. not to complain, metals were far too common before.

Nope, irons definatly there.

Plentiful metal has made us soft.
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Re: Deep / shallow metal when choosing embark location
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2011, 08:05:24 am »

As stated in other threads, deep metal(s) and shallow metal(s) just tells you that A ) there is a metal or metals type(s) B ) at a given depth setting (shallow or deep). There is no known way of guaranteeing the existence of iron ores without raw editting.
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Re: Deep / shallow metal when choosing embark location
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2011, 10:23:01 am »

afaik iron has been outright removed from the game. played 4 fortresses in 3 different worlds, and no civilization has ever had access to iron. neither have i. if you are lucky you will find tin/copper if you have deep/shallow metal. if you are lucky. not to complain, metals were far too common before.
Last 5 forts ive played had iron and flux
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Subdane

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Re: Deep / shallow metal when choosing embark location
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2011, 11:05:21 am »

I agree, there were A LOT of iron before... And was pretty easy.

Its ok that iron is more rare now, more challenging :D

Gotta change the way I play now, I almost never traded before.

And yes gotta go for the blue stuff ;P
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Re: Deep / shallow metal when choosing embark location
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2011, 11:14:05 am »

You could remove the aquifer tag from everything and add it to the iron-bearing ores. Then any embark with an aquifer will contain iron.

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Re: Deep / shallow metal when choosing embark location
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2011, 11:16:26 am »

I had a region dripping in iron, but I had crap for fuel, and didn't know how easy it was to get to the magma early. 
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Re: Deep / shallow metal when choosing embark location
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2011, 11:34:48 am »

Iron is definitely there. My current embark has both magnetite and native platinum 4 z-levels below the surface, embedded in a layer of flux. No fuel, but I buy up all the logs I can, so it's no big deal.
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Re: Deep / shallow metal when choosing embark location
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2011, 11:56:23 am »

^Same here, but with trees. Magnetite and platinum everywhere in a layer of dolomite. And there's a nice grassland outside.

Now iron deserves that 10 material value. It was a bit overpriced before.
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Re: Deep / shallow metal when choosing embark location
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2011, 12:16:08 pm »

I've got trees, but I slew them all in the first season getting steel going. So, I'm waiting for a massive regrow before I do another clear cut.
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