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Lord Licorice

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Attacking Own Civ's Demon-God Creates Chaos
« on: February 06, 2008, 03:56:00 am »

After building my very first 38a world, I made goblins a playable race and decided to meet my maker, so to speak: Bosa the Ungodly Hate of Terrors, demonic deity to the Oracular Malignant Monsters of Ransacking.  With a name that awesome, how could I resist paying a visit and homage to a demon-god?

After traveling a long, long distance to reach the capital through treacherous mountain paths, I made my way to the top of the Fortress of Nightmares in Rayhexes.  I had stopped by the Church of Bones just minutes beforehand, swearing my eternal allegiance to this dark lord of the goblins.

I greeted this terrible, fell creature as gracefully as I could, chatted with him a bit, accepted a quest to slay a mayor of a human town... and then attacked him.  Why?  Well, just because I wanted to test my mettle against a demon-lord!

The crazy thing?  I won.  I got a lucky headshot with an axe, rendering him unconscious in the second round of combat (after receiving heavy wounds from a fireball), and, after another two dozen failed attempts to hit him, finally beheaded the monster.

The crazier thing?  Civilization around me collapsed.  I had some drunks with me, and naturally they all came roaring to protect their deity the moment I struck... but the other peasants on the roof of the fortress suddenly came and attacked the drunks and Bosa! I was absolutely floored. A religious schism? Did the goblins finally see their opening to be free of the oppression of the monstrous beast and come to aid me as I slew their god? More and more people ran up to the roof, joining the terrible fray.  Two dozen bodies lay around me, blood everywhere, goblins attacking goblins without any apparent rhyme or reason!

Did they all go insane, or did I bring about a bloody revolution?  The answer is far, far weirder:

       

Take a close look at the second-to-last item. Yeah. That's right.

Bosa became an enemy of his very own death-cult for attacking me.

The peasants leapt to my defense, being religious, while the drunks and guards came after me for attacking the civilization leader. Religion apparently trumps government, and religious figures can apparently become enemies of their own cults for attacking their members, resulting in a completely-for-backwards-reasons political and religious bloodbath!

TL;DR: I attacked a demon-god, his own cult got mad at him and attacked him.

Addendum: The whole fight is here in a series of PNG images for anyone that's curious as to how the fighting went; the full save file post-demon-murder is here; and the save from just before the fight is here.

Addendum 2:

   

Further proof: Attacking the demon-god made me an enemy of the State, not the cult. When Bosa attacked me in self-defense, that made him an enemy of the Cult.  The State - guards and drunks - attacked me, the Cult - peasants - attacked Bosa.  I guess the real bug here is that manifest deities are apparently not necessarily part of the religion that worships them, and thus attacks on them do not alienate the cult itself.

Addendum 3: "Backwards Religious Schism" isn't as helpful/accurate of a topic title, so I'm changing it.

[ February 06, 2008: Message edited by: Lord Licorice ]

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Re: Attacking Own Civ's Demon-God Creates Chaos
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2008, 05:00:00 am »

Regardless of how messed up that is, it's one hell of an awesome story.  I wonder what'll happen to the cult, now that its god is gone.  Will they elect a new one?

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Re: Attacking Own Civ's Demon-God Creates Chaos
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2008, 05:35:00 am »

I will now create a new world and go on a rampage of god-killing.
Honestly, that is the single most overpowered thing I've read in the past five minutes.
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« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2008, 05:41:00 am »

bug? i think more a feature!
maybe you prayed to your god, and he gave you the lucky axe hit... and then he noticed the axe fliying into his head, too late...
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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2008, 05:56:00 am »

This is awesome.
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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2008, 02:08:00 pm »

It sounds as if you took Bosa's place... he he heh...
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« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2008, 02:54:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by WillNZ:
<STRONG>It sounds as if you took Bosa's place... he he heh...</STRONG>

This. This needs to be able to happen in a very real manner, ala D&D. Where your old adventurer, ready to retire, decides to slay a god and take their place. Then you retire as a god and make a new adventurer and worship your old character.

How cool is that!?

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Re: Attacking Own Civ's Demon-God Creates Chaos
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2008, 03:06:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Zogundar:
<STRONG>This. This needs to be able to happen in a very real manner, ala D&D. Where your old adventurer, ready to retire, decides to slay a god and take their place. Then you retire as a god and make a new adventurer and worship your old character.

How cool is that!?</STRONG>


I was so... so... so hoping this would happen and I'd be the first to discover this new Hidden Fun Stuff™, but alas it was not to be.

... Yet.  >:3

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« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2008, 06:26:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Zogundar:
<STRONG>

This. This needs to be able to happen in a very real manner, ala D&D. Where your old adventurer, ready to retire, decides to slay a god and take their place. Then you retire as a god and make a new adventurer and worship your old character.

How cool is that!?</STRONG>


That is an infinitely amazing idea.

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Re: Attacking Own Civ's Demon-God Creates Chaos
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2008, 06:30:00 pm »

Gods need a hole new creature file. To allow editing.
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Re: Attacking Own Civ's Demon-God Creates Chaos
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2008, 08:07:00 pm »

Sounds kinda like the old civil war bug. Only way more funny.

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Re: Attacking Own Civ's Demon-God Creates Chaos
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2008, 08:49:00 pm »

The kind of bug in A Kobold's Quest?
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Re: Attacking Own Civ's Demon-God Creates Chaos
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2008, 11:29:00 pm »

Best thing I've seen regarding adventure mode, ever. Downloading the saves and trying it for myself.

The becoming a God King stuff sounds just like powergoal material, I'd love it if this were implemented someday.

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Last message I got before leaving the site was him making his own High Priest explode into gore.

Got away alive with just a sprained knee   :D Now to try talking to my Deity.

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« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2008, 02:17:00 pm »

I am so keeping the version that this occurs in.
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« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2008, 06:51:00 pm »

I used to do something similar to this in the last version. With DF companion, make the mayor insane so he strikes someone. Then make him sane again. Whoever he hit will strike back. Both the mayor and the victim will be marked as enemies of the town. Soon all the villagers swarm towards the town hall to kill the survivor, and as they swing they're marked to be killed too. Everyone in the town kills each other, all in the one building.
Ball Room Blitz always popped into my head when I did this. I'd sit and a corner and watch/read the chaos. Limbs, axes, hammers, armor, and crossbows flying everywhere. Lots of free equipment when its over.
Even funner yet with a demi-god of course.

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