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MisterLich

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Lightning Fast Goblin?
« on: February 23, 2011, 04:14:04 am »

I have no idea what just happened, but I think my last adventurer got his ass handed to him by some god-like goblin.

All right, I'm on a mission to go kill some Night Horror or whatever, I gather my posse of peasants and set off.  I decide to sleep till dawn before we make the last bit of the trek.  Though I'm awoken in the middle of the night by a goblin boss, wise guy I think so I get ready to hand him his ass on a pike.  Boy was I wrong, but also surprised.  I have NO idea how this happened, but the second I made a move it was like everything went in fast-forwards, the goblin boss closed the distance on me and the peasants in the blink of an eye, like he just took 20 free turns.  LITERALLY IN THE BLINK OF AN EYE he beheaded two of my peasants and impaled the others, killing them.  Without even noticing my posse was killed in a flash by this one goblin pike samurai.  I then notice my feet and legs are mangled and I'm on the ground in extreme pain, I swing my fist at the goblin because some how he has also disarmed me.  I miss and he then attacks me like EIGHT TIMES, he stabs me, impales, twists, stabs, impales, twists, kicks and punches me before I even get another shot.

He was completely unscathed, and he finished me by planting his silver pike in my adventurer's heart through my iron breastplate.

What the hell just happened?  How was he taking all those extra turns?
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Kolbur

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Re: Lightning Fast Goblin?
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2011, 04:52:11 am »

Read the combat log next time something like this happens. You were probably unconcious from pain when the flash forward happened. I'd guess you were hit by a bolt/arrow that caused extreme pain and knocked you out. When he was able to attack you a lot of times after you tried to punch him it was because you were a mangled heap lieing on the floor, that reduces your speed extremely.
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Deadly Lamarr

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« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2011, 05:04:19 pm »

Did you take note of your speed and status?

You've got to cripple and maim this guy.
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Re: Lightning Fast Goblin?
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2011, 08:18:37 pm »

You said you were sleeping?
Were you still stunned and/or on the ground?
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Re: Lightning Fast Goblin?
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2011, 11:23:54 pm »

You and your meat shields were probably sleeping when he murdered all of you
Things fast forward when you are unconscious(when you are asleep it says you are unconscious)

This used to happen to me A LOT it sucks i know but i just made the habit of just sleeping over hamlets or towns when we are near one

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Re: Lightning Fast Goblin?
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2011, 12:19:18 am »

No matter how drowsy I am, I always "Wait" while out in the open.  Due to the impossible to avoid Bogeymen though, I always make very careful calculations on how far I can travel in one day...  Goblins are the least of my worries.
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« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2011, 08:05:23 pm »

yeah, this has happened to me a surprisingly large amount of times, although once, when i was killing a creature of the night, it DID go that fast... i almost killed it but then it lightning puched me over and over (and just cuz there's probably a mod for it, no i dont mean ACTUAL lightning) i died two turns after seeing it
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Re: Lightning Fast Goblin?
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2011, 10:32:40 am »

Yeah, you'd have been stunned after waking up.

As for the night creature business, it's surprisingly easy for your character to fall in and out of conciousness rapidly whilst the game plays itself.

Does this when you reload a ranged weapon too, and it sucks. I mean even a crappy bowman is capable of fitting a bow on a string in less than about 20 seconds, unlike the game would have you believe. The game also assumes you'd stand there and reload whilst someone hacked you, and you wouldn't just drop the bow and leg it. Or draw your sword.
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« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2011, 11:05:26 pm »

Yeah, you'd have been stunned after waking up.

As for the night creature business, it's surprisingly easy for your character to fall in and out of conciousness rapidly whilst the game plays itself.

Does this when you reload a ranged weapon too, and it sucks. I mean even a crappy bowman is capable of fitting a bow on a string in less than about 20 seconds, unlike the game would have you believe. The game also assumes you'd stand there and reload whilst someone hacked you, and you wouldn't just drop the bow and leg it. Or draw your sword.

I think the slow rate of fire on ranged weapons is just one of those rare occasions where Toady put game balance ahead of realism. If you could fire a bow as fast as you can do melee attacks, then from the moment you get someone in line-of-sight to the moment he's close enough to hit you, you'd basically get about ten or fifteen free attacks. Fights at bandit camps would basically involve everyone on both sides who doesn't have a bow rushing forward and getting shot down before all the archers settle into a plinking match.
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Re: Lightning Fast Goblin?
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2011, 06:58:36 pm »

So THAT's why crossbowmen train at the same rate as bowmen!
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