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[JoshBrickstien]

I'm trying to Generate a world for Fortressing without a dwarven civ. I finally got a world without a dorf civ, but... It won't let me build a fortress. Does anyone have a save that this works on? Thanks. I'm really wanting to try out a "last dwarves" scenario, but I need the world to be genned properly first.

[DStecks]

It probably won't let you start a fort because there are no dwarves to start a fort with.

[*Poster*]

It probably won't let you start a fort because there are no dwarves to start a fort with.

But it ought to. It used to be that even with no Dwarf civs alive, seven would be conjured from thin air to create the new fort. Presumably, unless OP is doing something unusual, that has now been changed?

[Psychobones]

I was trying to get a world like this as well. If the dwarves never had a civilization, then you won't be able to start a fort. I fixed this by creating pocket world after pocket world. Eventually you'll get a history where they dwarves picked a fight with someone and lost. Gen the world, check for a dwarven civ, check adventurer mode and make sure you can't start a dwarf, then start your fort. Took me about 20 times, but pocket worlds generate quickly.

[c-106mc]

You can turn off the need for a Dwarven civilization for embarking in the advanced world gen parameters. You turn off something along the lines of "Parent Civ", I don't remember the exact wording, but it's there.

[Psychobones]

You can turn off the need for a Dwarven civilization for embarking in the advanced world gen parameters. You turn off something along the lines of "Parent Civ", I don't remember the exact wording, but it's there.

That only stops the warning that the fort will be a legends only fort. The parameter is "Playable Civilization Required".

[JoshBrickstien]

So, I genned some more pockets. I checked adventure mode, and there were no playable dwarves, just elves and humans. But Dwarf more still shows a civ/mountain homes. What's up with that?

[Psychobones]

So, I genned some more pockets. I checked adventure mode, and there were no playable dwarves, just elves and humans. But Dwarf more still shows a civ/mountain homes. What's up with that?

You have to have a parent civ, it just so happens that your parent civ is dead.

Also note that you'll get two waves of migrants, as they're hardcoded.

[JoshBrickstien]

So, I genned some more pockets. I checked adventure mode, and there were no playable dwarves, just elves and humans. But Dwarf more still shows a civ/mountain homes. What's up with that?

You have to have a parent civ, it just so happens that your parent civ is dead.

Also note that you'll get two waves of migrants, as they're hardcoded.

But, they have 5 forts. And they are listed as neighboring civs. Is this normal?

[Tcei]

This is the world Im currently playing on.  There's only one dwarven civ, and they die out nearly 400 years before world gen ends. You'll only get the first 2 migrant waves, which I've been told is hard coded.  Also if you have a somewhat slow system it may take a while to gen as it goes through nearly 350 rejects.

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[WORLD_GEN]
    [TITLE:DUSKMOUNTAIN]
    [SEED:1226363136]
    [HISTORY_SEED:2616089344]
    [NAME_SEED:479587840]
    [CREATURE_SEED:2375361536]
    [DIM:129:129]
    [EMBARK_POINTS:10000]
    [END_YEAR:500]
    [BEAST_END_YEAR:200:80]
    [REVEAL_ALL_HISTORY:1]
    [CULL_HISTORICAL_FIGURES:0]
    [ELEVATION:1:400:401:401]
    [RAINFALL:0:100:200:200]
    [TEMPERATURE:25:75:200:200]
    [DRAINAGE:0:100:200:200]
    [VOLCANISM:0:100:200:200]
    [SAVAGERY:0:100:200:200]
    [ELEVATION_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [RAIN_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [DRAINAGE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [TEMPERATURE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [SAVAGERY_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [VOLCANISM_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
    [MEGABEAST_CAP:18]
    [SEMIMEGABEAST_CAP:37]
    [TITAN_NUMBER:9]
    [TITAN_ATTACK_TRIGGER:80:0:100000]
    [DEMON_NUMBER:28]
    [NIGHT_CREATURE_NUMBER:52]
    [GOOD_SQ_COUNTS:500:800:1200]
    [EVIL_SQ_COUNTS:1000:1200:1500]
    [PEAK_NUMBER_MIN:12]
    [PARTIAL_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:1]
    [COMPLETE_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:0]
    [VOLCANO_MIN:200]
    [REGION_COUNTS:SWAMP:260:1:1]
    [REGION_COUNTS:DESERT:260:1:1]
    [REGION_COUNTS:FOREST:1040:3:3]
    [REGION_COUNTS:MOUNTAINS:2080:2:2]
    [REGION_COUNTS:OCEAN:2080:1:1]
    [REGION_COUNTS:GLACIER:0:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:TUNDRA:0:0:0]
    [REGION_COUNTS:GRASSLAND:2080:3:3]
    [REGION_COUNTS:HILLS:2080:3:3]
    [EROSION_CYCLE_COUNT:250]
    [RIVER_MINS:100:100]
    [PERIODICALLY_ERODE_EXTREMES:1]
    [OROGRAPHIC_PRECIPITATION:1]
    [SUBREGION_MAX:2750]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_COUNT:2]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MIN:100]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MAX:100]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MIN:0]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MAX:0]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MIN:25]
    [CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MAX:75]
    [HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_1:1]
    [HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_2:1]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_GROUND:25]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_1:15]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_2:1]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_3:1]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_4:1]
    [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_5:2]
    [LEVELS_AT_BOTTOM:1]
    [CAVE_MIN_SIZE:5]
    [CAVE_MAX_SIZE:25]
    [MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:25]
    [NON_MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:50]
    [ALL_CAVES_VISIBLE:0]
    [SHOW_EMBARK_TUNNEL:2]
    [TOTAL_CIV_NUMBER:40]
    [TOTAL_CIV_POPULATION:15000]
    [SITE_CAP:1040]
    [PLAYABLE_CIVILIZATION_REQUIRED:1]
    [ELEVATION_RANGES:2080:4160:2080]
    [RAIN_RANGES:2080:4160:2080]
    [DRAINAGE_RANGES:2080:4160:2080]
    [SAVAGERY_RANGES:2080:4160:2080]
    [VOLCANISM_RANGES:2080:4160:2080]

[Derekristow]

But, they have 5 forts. And they are listed as neighboring civs. Is this normal?

Check the civ's leaders. If they are dead then so is everyone else.

[Psychobones]

If dwarves aren't playable in Adventurer then the dwarven civilization is dead. Period.