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[penco]

According to the wiki, it's likely that caged animals do not become pregnant. I have a lot of questions here:

1) Can anyone actually confirm this?
2) Can caged males impregnant uncaged females? Vice versa? Do they both have to be uncaged?
3) How many fully grown animals do you need for one milkdwarf to be able to milk nonstop?
4) I ask, how many dwarves could an axedwarf axe if an axedwarf whacks dwarfs with his axe?

[Sphalerite]

Caged animals do not become pregnant.  Animals which are already pregnant and are then put into a cage will give birth in the cage.  Baby animals put in a cage will grow to adulthood in the cage.

It appears that in the current version, a male animal who is in a cage can impregnate a female animal who is not in a cage.  This was not true in 40d, but I have seen it happen and I have heard others report seeing it as well in the current version.

[Akura]

1) Animals in cages cannot become pregnant or impregnate other animals, but can give birth while caged. If there's even one frame of action where they're not caged then they can impregnate or become pregnant in hat one frame, including when they arrive in a merchant cage. There's one frame where the game does not count them as caged, and can become pregnant in that one single frame.

2) No, see above. Both have to be uncaged, to my knowledge.

3) One? I'm not really sure.

4) Depends on how many mandates were violated.

[Eagle_eye]

as for 3, I think you can milk each animal once a month. so probably 6 or 7...

[Xenos]

as for 3, I think you can milk each animal once a month. so probably 6 or 7...

it takes 20000 steps for the milk to be recharged on each animal.  but 6-7 should be pretty close to how many are necessary for a milker of some skill.  As they progress in proficiency, you will need to acquire more dairy stock.  (Make sure your dairy stock has desirable attributes such as "enormous" "muscular" and "fat."  This will help maximize the amount of material recoverable from each animal.  Enormous affects bone mass, muscular affects meat, and fat, well, duh.  I shoot for enormous and muscular but dont care much for fat.  If you are producing much soap then that could be useful.)  I would like to see tests done on this matter...

Another consideration is how efficiently iis your workshop area designed.  Meaning, are the chains adjacent to the workshop? Is there an empty bucket stockpile nearby? Is there a liquid animal extract accepting food stockpile nearby?  Are you sticking with one dwarf milking or will multiple dwarves have the labor enabled (to allow for truly continuous milking)?  Will there be multiple milking stations?

(protip:  make sure you have a second liquid stockpile away from the milking plant that will take from the near stockpile.  This will let you manage your haulers such that milk will be brought to the larger stockpile and then transfered to barrels (possibly have 2 stockpiles for this.) so that when processed into cheese, you get stacks of 5 and not single stacks of cheese.)

[penco]

Hold on--steps? So a caged cow makes no milk?

Sounds proverbial.

[Sphalerite]

Hold on--steps? So a caged cow makes no milk?

No, caged animals are perfectly milkable.  'steps' refers to the passing of time here, not physical movement.

[Psieye]

So a caged cow makes no milk?

The ability to be impregnated has absolutely nothing to do with the ability to produce milk in DF.

[Qinetix]

1) Caged animals can't get pergrant , use restraints
2)Nope
3)6 animals i guess , the milker gona have the folowing action anyways: On break
4)Idk

[Makigall]

Ok, I've got some strange behavior with caged animals.  Specifically I've captured several elk birds, and the clutter combined with a mandate to make elk bird horn items drove me to mod my raws to remove the pet exotic tag from elk birds and replace it with a pet tag.  Now I've got tamed elk birds in cages, but every time I try to remove them from their cages my dwarfs just transfer them to another empty cage.

Assigning them to a restraint near my butcher's workshop results in my dwarfs attacking the tame elk birds.

[Sphalerite]

It sounds like they aren't actually tame.  If you did tame them then this might be one of those cases where a creature is tame but not considered part of your civilization for some reason.