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PosiBolt

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33e: Tons of stone to dump, but dwarves idle
« on: December 14, 2007, 12:46:00 pm »

Ok, so I designated some stone to be dumped. Alot of stone. Several floors full of stone. I've got a reasonably large fort, and i'm pretty much strip mining layers upon layers of rock. This seemed to keep my dwarves busy for quite some time, but now they've all mysteriously gone idle. There is still a ton of stone that i've marked to be dumped, but nobody bothers to dump it. It's all easily accessible, and unmarking and re-marking the stones does nothing.

Did I break something by queueing too much stone to dump? The only way I can get a dwarf to touch these stones at this point is to un-mark it for dumping, and have them need to move it for some other reason, like using it to build something or filling a stockpile. I tried designating another spot for dumping, thinking that maybe the original spot became full or something to no avail. Dwarves are just standing around.

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Re: 33e: Tons of stone to dump, but dwarves idle
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2007, 01:07:00 pm »

Anyone have the hauling skills required to haul stone?

That's one of the biggest mistakes when it comes to hauling stone.

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Re: 33e: Tons of stone to dump, but dwarves idle
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2007, 01:15:00 pm »

And also, in order to dump anything (including stone) the "refuse hauling" skill must be turned on.
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Re: 33e: Tons of stone to dump, but dwarves idle
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2007, 01:18:00 pm »

All the idlers have Stone and Refuse hauling as active. They were hauling tons of stone before, but they all mysteriously stopped for some reason. Nothing has changed with their labor designations.
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Re: 33e: Tons of stone to dump, but dwarves idle
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2007, 01:22:00 pm »

So, to make sure I have this straight, they'll move the stone anywhere you tell them but just won't dump it?  Have you tried designating a stone stockpile, and then once it's full designate a nearby/adjacent tile as a dump site.  Then mark all of the stockpile stone for dumping (remove the dump designation from everything else).  You could also try zoning one of the stockpile tiles as a dump.
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Re: 33e: Tons of stone to dump, but dwarves idle
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2007, 01:30:00 pm »

I think this is a result of the bug which makes inddor areas count as outdoor check if the stone is "outside" if it is turn on refuse hauling outside (
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Re: 33e: Tons of stone to dump, but dwarves idle
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2007, 01:36:00 pm »

The areas are marked as 'inside' but are showing as 'light' and 'above ground' instead of 'dark' and 'subterranean'. Still, turning on rubbish hauling for outside per thatguyyaknow's suggestion produced immediate results.

I'd like to know how a tile several floors underground can be marked as inside light and above ground while the ones next to it are dark subterranean, but that's a mystery best left to the one that can fix it.

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Re: 33e: Tons of stone to dump, but dwarves idle
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2007, 01:47:00 pm »

Its something to do with if you have a z-level of undug ground between that level and the surface (must have wall not just floor) or so I've heard.
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Re: 33e: Tons of stone to dump, but dwarves idle
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2007, 03:03:00 pm »

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Originally posted by PosiBolt:
<STRONG>The areas are marked as 'inside' but are showing as 'light' and 'above ground' instead of 'dark' and 'subterranean'. Still, turning on rubbish hauling for outside per thatguyyaknow's suggestion produced immediate results.

I'd like to know how a tile several floors underground can be marked as inside light and above ground while the ones next to it are dark subterranean, but that's a mystery best left to the one that can fix it.</STRONG>


That's probably to do with the bug that's breaking farms (light traveling through floors).

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Re: 33e: Tons of stone to dump, but dwarves idle
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2007, 12:20:00 am »

i've had a similar problem with moving stone (chalk), i mine quite a bit of it, and designated them all for dumping, i set up a garbage dump zone nearby for them to take it to, it's all underground, (dark/inside subterranean), but the dwarfs seem to dump all except for a few stragglers that they'll ignore.

alright no biggie really, i figured i'll just un-designate those last few stones and set the craftsdwarfs shop to turn them into craft, but instead i got the message that i have no available non-economic stone to make crafts with, now i went to the stone menu using "z" and chalk is highlighted green so it's definetly useable, and if i reclaim a few stones from the dump pile i made, the craftdwarf will happily take those.

i just made a stone stockpile for economic stone but no luck, it's as if the stone isn't really there and the map hasn't updated the fact yet.

[ December 15, 2007: Message edited by: Scotty ]

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Re: 33e: Tons of stone to dump, but dwarves idle
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2007, 12:21:00 am »

sorry double post

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Re: 33e: Tons of stone to dump, but dwarves idle
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2007, 12:21:00 am »

bah sorry again, triple post....

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Re: 33e: Tons of stone to dump, but dwarves idle
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2007, 11:57:00 pm »

just found out something, this works with 33d but if the original bug is persisting in 33e and 33f then give this trick a try, set the stone being left alone to forbidden then take them off forbidden again, can probably do a mass forbid/reclaim and your dwarves should take em away as they should again

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