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[DJ]

None permit mother-son marriage, though.

[Earthquake Damage]

None permit mother-son marriage, though.

To my knowledge, this is true.  Also father-daughter and children of the same parents (not sure about half-siblings).

[Sergius]

Ramblings about the actual tale itself aside, I get the following things from that article:

1) The Elders were wrong in assuming that culture is the same everywhere.

2) The Shakespeare guy was wrong in assuming that culture is the same everywhere.


But the Elders came as more annoying, because they basically said that they knew more about Shakespeare guy's culture than Shakespeare guy, while having had nearly zero interaction with it.

But Shakespeare guy kinda had it coming.

In fact, both parties make pretty much nearly every one of us in this forum look better, because (I think) we understand better what culture clash is, while this guy assumed that the Elders were basically Europeans-in-Huts, and the Elders & co assumed the world was a Really Big Bush(?) Village.



I'm pretty sure anyone here agrees that given the "right" alien culture, we'll find some group in the world that thinks Hamlet was actually a werewolf and trying to drink his mother's blood and turn England into communist hippie werewolf land. Too bad the guy that narrates this story had to learn that the hard way.

[mainiac]

For instance, here in the west, everyone basically knows what a djinni is (even if they don't know how to spell it)

In the english language, it's spelled genie.  In the arabic language, it's spelled with arabic letters.

But your level of self righteous smugness pales in comparison to the bunch of jerks in the story.  I think I was four when I started figuring out that people don't all think the same way.

[cowofdoom78963]

Wasn't the moral of the story that people do think the same?

The cheif and the guys friend both understood the story.

[Cthulhu]

Ramblings about the actual tale itself aside, I get the following things from that article:

1) The Elders were wrong in assuming that culture is the same everywhere.

2) The Shakespeare guy was wrong in assuming that culture is the same everywhere.


But the Elders came as more annoying, because they basically said that they knew more about Shakespeare guy's culture than Shakespeare guy, while having had nearly zero interaction with it.

But Shakespeare guy kinda had it coming.

In fact, both parties make pretty much nearly every one of us in this forum look better, because (I think) we understand better what culture clash is, while this guy assumed that the Elders were basically Europeans-in-Huts, and the Elders & co assumed the world was a Really Big Bush(?) Village.



I'm pretty sure anyone here agrees that given the "right" alien culture, we'll find some group in the world that thinks Hamlet was actually a werewolf and trying to drink his mother's blood and turn England into communist hippie werewolf land. Too bad the guy that narrates this story had to learn that the hard way.

That's all they've ever known though.  They have literally zero knowledge of the setting of Hamlet, and nothing to go on. 

[Sergius]

Well, yeah. I'm not saying that it's somehow the bushmen's fault for not knowing stuff. Yet they're not open to the idea that there's something out there different than what they know. And since they're "Elders" or "people who know things", they assume it is whoever comes from outside that is wrong about how the outside works.

[Grakelin]

DJ: Lots has happened since I posted this morning, but I'm not getting at just the themes of patricide and incest. Oedipus Rex is also very much about fate and prophecy, which are spiritual elements that this tribe might not necessarily share.

For instance: WTF is an Oracle. Is it an Elder? Why does he need another Elder to explain to him what the first Elder said? Was he not paying attention? What a dope this guy is.

[Sergius]

Oracle? Witch.
Scholar? Witch.

Anyone who claims to know stuff and is not Elder, or speak with dead people, or send omens? Witch.

Mad? Bewitched.
Drowned? Bewitched.