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Author Topic: How did 9/11 Affect Terrorism In The US?: Graphs Before And After  (Read 19614 times)

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Re: How did 9/11 Affect Terrorism In The US?: Graphs Before And After
« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2010, 12:02:28 pm »

Aww... No atheist terrorists! D: Atheist's need a share of the terror pie too!
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Re: How did 9/11 Affect Terrorism In The US?: Graphs Before And After
« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2010, 02:24:16 pm »

What's "anthrax" mean?  Pro-anthrax extremists?
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Re: How did 9/11 Affect Terrorism In The US?: Graphs Before And After
« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2010, 09:52:45 pm »

What's "anthrax" mean?  Pro-anthrax extremists?

I guess they just  8) thrash the country around a bit.

I'm guessing that they use anthrax spores to harm people.
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Re: How did 9/11 Affect Terrorism In The US?: Graphs Before And After
« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2010, 10:46:24 pm »

Of course, if you really want to get interesting, my opinion is that you ought to try deeper analysis than this. Another set of graphs, Method of Attacks by Motive: Bombings by Motive, Arson by motive, Shooting by motive, etc. At least that way, the issue of conflation of relatively minor seeming attacks with relatively major attacks is avoided.

I wouldn't recommend that.  The data set is just too small.  We have about 45 data points and several different sub categories.  Any real statistical analysis trying to deal with the sub categories laid out here would find it's conclusions all fail to overcome even a very moderate statistical significance threshold.
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Re: How did 9/11 Affect Terrorism In The US?: Graphs Before And After
« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2010, 01:29:31 am »

84 different attacks doesn't seem like a big enough group. I always thought there were more terrorist attacks.

Great job starting a war on the other side of the world to lower the number of terrorist attacks by 1-4, USA.
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Re: How did 9/11 Affect Terrorism In The US?: Graphs Before And After
« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2010, 10:01:35 am »

84 different attacks doesn't seem like a big enough group. I always thought there were more terrorist attacks.

Great job starting a war on the other side of the world to lower the number of terrorist attacks by 1-4, USA.
The irony being that it's increased the number of islamic terrorist attacks, though it's apparently made a few other groups realize what terrible PR terrorism is.
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Re: How did 9/11 Affect Terrorism In The US?: Graphs Before And After
« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2010, 12:48:40 pm »

I'm guessing that they use anthrax spores to harm people.
Yeah, but every other group is marked with a motive, rather than a method.
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Re: How did 9/11 Affect Terrorism In The US?: Graphs Before And After
« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2010, 04:06:27 pm »

Anthrax guy was a special case since his terrorist attack was done to generate more money for his anthrax vaccation program and keep his job. I thought the anthrax scare of 2001 was very famous, so I didn't see any need to attach a 'motive'. If I was to assign a motive, I would call it "False Flag".

Of course, if you really want to get interesting, my opinion is that you ought to try deeper analysis than this. Another set of graphs, Method of Attacks by Motive: Bombings by Motive, Arson by motive, Shooting by motive, etc. At least that way, the issue of conflation of relatively minor seeming attacks with relatively major attacks is avoided.

I wouldn't recommend that.  The data set is just too small.  We have about 45 data points and several different sub categories.  Any real statistical analysis trying to deal with the sub categories laid out here would find it's conclusions all fail to overcome even a very moderate statistical significance threshold.

What if I instead look at all terrorist attacks that occured throughout the United States starting from the earliest possible date of when the Global Terrorist Database started collecting data? If I classify it on the basis of attacks based on methods and motives, we could determine if "terrorism" in the US is indeed very serious (sniper attacks), or not so much (spraypainting). In this graph, I'll also classify "buytic acid" as a terrorist attack, if only because the GTD view it as such, as well as to avoid charges of "artibariness".

The conflation between minor attacks and major attacks seem to be the biggest flaw with my study, and looking at methods would help to avoid that.

EDIT: I'll also see if I can post a new post-9/11 graph with all the pie sections labeled, like the pre-9/11 graph.
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Re: How did 9/11 Affect Terrorism In The US?: Graphs Before And After
« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2010, 04:33:28 pm »

Anthrax guy was a special case since his terrorist attack was done to generate more money for his anthrax vaccation program and keep his job. I thought the anthrax scare of 2001 was very famous, so I didn't see any need to attach a 'motive'. If I was to assign a motive, I would call it "False Flag".
I was under the impression that they never conclusively figured out who did it, something about the main suspect being exonerated, and the second one dying or killing himself or what have you .
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Re: How did 9/11 Affect Terrorism In The US?: Graphs Before And After
« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2010, 04:34:18 pm »

You could do it based on... approximate value of the damage caused, finding some way to factor deaths in too?
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Re: How did 9/11 Affect Terrorism In The US?: Graphs Before And After
« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2010, 05:56:26 pm »

Well that kind of separates successful ones from failed ones- not sure whether that's what you want, but since motivations were in the original graph I would imagine that it's more about terrorists than security men.
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Re: How did 9/11 Affect Terrorism In The US?: Graphs Before And After
« Reply #26 on: October 06, 2010, 07:43:39 pm »

84 different attacks doesn't seem like a big enough group. I always thought there were more terrorist attacks.

Great job starting a war on the other side of the world to lower the number of terrorist attacks by 1-4, USA.

However, the graphs don't reflect the number of discovered plots. I bet that there's been a large amount of foiled plots.
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Re: How did 9/11 Affect Terrorism In The US?: Graphs Before And After
« Reply #27 on: October 06, 2010, 10:09:22 pm »

Anthrax guy was a special case since his terrorist attack was done to generate more money for his anthrax vaccation program and keep his job. I thought the anthrax scare of 2001 was very famous, so I didn't see any need to attach a 'motive'. If I was to assign a motive, I would call it "False Flag".
I was under the impression that they never conclusively figured out who did it, something about the main suspect being exonerated, and the second one dying or killing himself or what have you .

They never did conclusively figured it out, but the FBI have closed its investigation on the Anthrax attack and is sticking by its story that they found out who did it (the second suspect who killed himself).
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Re: How did 9/11 Affect Terrorism In The US?: Graphs Before And After
« Reply #28 on: October 07, 2010, 02:43:05 pm »



Will be placed in the OP too.
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Re: How did 9/11 Affect Terrorism In The US?: Graphs Before And After
« Reply #29 on: October 08, 2010, 10:21:48 am »

Now that pie chart is clearly much larger.
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