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Samuel

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How long till the goblins/elves/humans show up?
« on: August 14, 2010, 11:06:28 pm »

I've been playing for 'bout a week now, and have had a couple fortresses, but I have yet to meet any other civilization. I've had a fortress going for over an in-game year and have yet to run into a single goblin, or elf, or human.

Do the other civilizations show up later, or am I embarking in the wrong places?
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Re: How long till the goblins/elves/humans show up?
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2010, 11:10:22 pm »

If you press tab on the embark screen you'll cycle through a series of views. One of these will show you a list of race names - ones that appear on the list have access to you, and ones nearer the top of the list will be closer (?) and should show up earlier.

Even if everyone can get to you, it might take them a while if your site is a long way off.
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Re: How long till the goblins/elves/humans show up?
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2010, 11:13:27 pm »

ahh, I'll have to check that out. thanks.

Now, how do I find civilizations on the embark deciding map?
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Re: How long till the goblins/elves/humans show up?
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2010, 11:14:16 pm »

Elves turn up a year after you embark (in spring). Humans don't arrive until a few years after you have embarked, and arrive in summer.

It's entirely possible that you are embarking in the wrong places. (c) lets you see any civ that has had a presence (detected or not) on your map, but not if they are going to arrive but just haven't yet. The only way to check if a civ will turn up at your site at all is before embark by pressing tab a few times. If only the dwarves show up then either you are embarking somewhere inaccesible to the other civs or they all died out.
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Re: How long till the goblins/elves/humans show up?
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2010, 11:14:49 pm »

You most likely won't meet any other races until the second year, or later. Humans especially so.

Hit tab. Eventually a list will come up showing the civilizations that have access to the location.
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Re: How long till the goblins/elves/humans show up?
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2010, 11:19:15 pm »

Assuming you're playing the 31.x version elves wont show up till late spring (or almost the beginning of summer) of the second year. Humans don't show up till late summer. Goblins are dependent on population, wealth, and probably a few other factors I've forgotten. I dont normally get ambushes until late in the second year, early in the third.

All this is of course dependent on how close/far the civs are from my fort. In one fort I didnt have elves show up till my 4th year, and it doesnt seem uncommon for humans to take 2-3 years to first show up.

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Re: How long till the goblins/elves/humans show up?
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2010, 08:02:04 am »

It's also not impossible to have no other civ's in the world. I've generated quite a few worlds where my parent dwarf civilization died out, as well as the elves (they seem to always go first).

One world I had literally no other civilizations at all. No humans, no goblins, no elves, no dwarves... just me and my little outpost. Kind of creepy, like some sort of post-apocalyptic dwarf fortress.

I should of named it Shady Sands.
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Re: How long till the goblins/elves/humans show up?
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2010, 10:00:10 am »

I should of named it Shady Sands.
It wouldn't be Shady Sands without raids, though.
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