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Author Topic: Is the wiki broken, or is it just me?  (Read 872 times)

greycat

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Is the wiki broken, or is it just me?
« on: May 20, 2010, 07:54:52 am »

I keep hoping I'll find a thread somewhere saying "Oh, by the way, we changed ____ on the wiki, so you'll have to do ____ to login.  Sorry 'bout that."   But I'm not seeing it, so I guess I have to ask.

What's up?  For some reason, I can't login to the wiki.  When I try, I'm told that I'm supplying an incorrect password.  I'm fairly sure that I'm not.  So, next I told it to mail me a new password.  I never received any e-mail.  This is disheartening, particularly since I don't remember whether I used my home e-mail or my work e-mail for the wiki (and it doesn't tell me which domain it's sending to).  If it's sending to my home e-mail, then the messages might be delayed by the greylisting that I run on that system, or maybe the wiki's outgoing mail server can't cope with greylisting delays, and dequeued the message too soon... I can't tell from here.  And when I click the "E-mail new password" button again today, I'm told that I can only hit it once every 24 hours.  *sigh*

And then there's some sort of captcha on the login screen.  But it's not clear whether this captcha is for regular logins, or for creating new accounts.  And it's not clear to me whether I need to tell NoScript to allow any domains to exploit my browser with JavaScript for the login process to succeed.  I'm allowing magmawiki.com and google.com and googlesyndication.com, but NoScript is still blocking JS from google-analytics.com, tynt.com, wikimedia.org, doubleclick.net and recaptcha.net.  (Yes, that's right, there are EIGHT different domains trying to run Javascript code on the wiki's login screen!)

In any case, passing the captcha still doesn't let me login, although at this point it might be because I clicked the "E-mail new password" button and it changed my password and the e-mail was eaten by a megabeast.  So I guess I wait X more hours (it doesn't say how many X is), click it again, pray it comes through.... :(
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Re: Is the wiki broken, or is it just me?
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2010, 09:58:36 am »

Have you tried contacting Briess as per the Help page?
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Re: Is the wiki broken, or is it just me?
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2010, 10:20:54 am »

Briess will definitely be able to help, with respect to your question it may be "just you" because I just logged in myself.

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Re: Is the wiki broken, or is it just me?
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2010, 10:25:43 am »

Hmm... I allowed Javascript (temporarily) from tynt.com and wikimedia.org.  Then I went back to the login screen (by clicking the "log in or create account" link at the top of the page), and the captcha was entirely gone.  I re-pasted the password from my notes, clicked the "keep me logged in" button, and ... it allowed me to login!
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Re: Is the wiki broken, or is it just me?
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2010, 10:27:58 pm »

The captcha only appears if the server can't authenticate you properly, or if you are not logged in and you're making an edit, or if it is your first 2 days as a user.

Without JS, the entire login functionality of the wiki is slightly borked, which is probably what you ran into issues with.  However, you can block JS from tynt.com without affecting your site experience.

[Edit] I'm looking into the email issues currently.

These are the domains you will probably want to allow JS from:
magmawiki.com
wikimedia.org
recaptcha.net

the rest of the domains either provide analytics functionality or the ads so I can afford hosting.
« Last Edit: May 22, 2010, 10:32:45 pm by Locriani »
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Re: Is the wiki broken, or is it just me?
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2010, 10:30:06 pm »

It definitely to me sounds like when you reset the password and didn't get the email that's what's keeping you out.
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Re: Is the wiki broken, or is it just me?
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2010, 10:34:54 pm »

It definitely to me sounds like when you reset the password and didn't get the email that's what's keeping you out.

The forgot my password link doesn't actually reset your password, it creates a temporary password that is useable one time before you are expected to change it (and change it you should, since the temporary password is not encrypted in the database like your normal password is!)
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Re: Is the wiki broken, or is it just me?
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2010, 11:53:23 am »

Seems organic to put this here even though it's not quite useful in this situation :x
http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
« Last Edit: May 23, 2010, 11:54:59 am by dorf »
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