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[delphey]

So I started my first ever fort in the middle of a human town, for no good reason.  The human town consisted of 4 rectangular forts of a few z-levels each. One of these I took over for initial living space, and then dug down for everything else. 

For defense, I have a terribly long corridor of traps outside, with a drawbridge at the end in case things get hairy.  I built a big outer wall encircling a lot of the map, using the 3 other forts as part of it to cut down on what I needed to make.

But, there is alternative method to get inside.  I have connected the 3 other forts together (all of which are full of about 20-30 humans each), in such a way that if I raise the drawbridge, the only pathway invaders can use to get to my dwarves is to go through each z-level of each of the 3 other forts, in a maze-like path so that they have to walk past about 90% of the humans inside.  Then, they can proceed via a hole in a fort wall to get me, where I have another drawbridge in case an unkillable gets through. 

Unfortunately it has been 2-3 years waiting and no ambushes or sieges, so I haven't been able to test it out.  I'm really looking forward to seeing a war.

I think this would be more entertaining with an Elven town though... those hypocrite bastards. 

[tastypaste]

It would suck to go through all that work and then discover that there are no neighboring goblin civilizations.

[atomicthumbs]

Have fun with your first siege, when the humans will realize that this is their chance to rise up against their dwarven oppressors and will all turn hostile.

[Lord Darkstar]

It would suck to go through all that work and then discover that there are no neighboring goblin civilizations.

I've had that happen in my current fort. Makes for a VERY peaceful fort life.

[ISGC]

I usually make sure I have
Goblin-----------WAR
before I embark, if it takes more then one world gen
then I embark on a goblin fortress so I can have an awesome first siege.
unfortunately, the ambushes don't turn them against me, so their numbers are greatly stubbed by the siege

[delphey]

Well I had 3 ambushes before making the walls so I know goblins exist.  What I didn't know is that sieges make all other humans/elves/dwarves hostile?  Really?