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[Psieye]

15+5 is not the maximum skill level in 40d. Truly epic champions go much higher than that. Depending on whose stories you're reading, you could be comparing fresh legendary champions vs epic badass veteran champions.

[Rafal99]

The effective skill is capped at 15+5.
So 15+5 is the same as 50+ some of my 40d champions had.

[Josiwe]

Huh. Ok well, nevermind, I guess. A siege arrived - 4 groups of 15. 1 group ranged, 2 groups mixed axe and wrestler, one group pikes.

I sent my 6 healthy champions out with half warhammers, have unarmed, to engage them separately so that they couldn't gang up. They absolutely wrecked them, only 5 goblins got away, 55 kills.

However I did recently set my dwarves speed to 1 in order to hurry up some hauling - I'm building a border around a 6x6 map - and I suspect that was a factor. It makes them agile far beyond anything ordinary stats in vanilla DF could reach, right? Anyway problem solved.

[Hyndis]

How often they can perform an action, like attacking, depends on their speed. This is a factor both of their base speed and their agility.

So by changing them to speed:1 you have dwarves that are running around at nearly the speed of sound, and performing actions similarly as fast.

[Canalan]

Every siege I get that has bowbeings results in severely injured or dead champions. It just comes down to luck for the poor little bastards.

[Hyndis]

Luckily the supply of soap makers is infinite.